> I don't understand how that works with negative numbers since > there is > no distinct negative 0. 'put x into line ((number of lines > of y)+1) of > y' might have a similar effect? (Is that affect, Ken?) Nope, "effect" is correct. :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: kray at sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/