DreamCard Review-PCPLUS

[Marian Petrides]

Well, which of us is going to write a rebuttal letter to the editor of 
the yellow rag that published this article? I can't compare Rev to VB, 
only to Applesoft BASIC or maybe (gag, sputter) GW BASIC.

On Dec 22, 2004, at 12:50 PM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote:

> I went from using Visual Basic for Applications to using RunRev
> specifically because VBA is torture. Used in MS Word, it cannot do half
> what RunRev can do, and RunRev is like 1000 times more intuitive.
>
> The person who wrote this article obviously did not spend any real time
> working with RunRev, or he would have a better clue.  My guess is, he
> already knows VB pretty well, and so had a hard time adjusting to the
> difference.
>
> I, on the other hand, only knew a little bit of VB, and switched before
> learning VB intimately. My learning curve on RunRev has been much
> shorter than it was when trying to learn VB.
>
> Also, I'd wager a week's wages that if you took an experienced RunRev
> developer and an experienced VB developer and gave them the same
> instructions for creating a nifty stand-alone program - the RunRev guy
> would get it done in 1/3 the time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com
> [mailto:use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Frank D.
> Engel, Jr.
> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 11:33 AM
> To: How to use Revolution
> Subject: Re: DreamCard Review-PCPLUS
>
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> It's a Windows magazine, probably written by Windows fans.  What do
> they know?
>
> ;-)
>
> Seriously, they are both correct, and lacking.  Rev is by far an easier
> environment to work with than Visual Studio, and personally I hate
> Microsoft stuff.  OTOH, the documentation is quite lacking from the
> perspective of learning how to use Rev (the tutorials in RevOnline are
> a nice start, but still lacking).  Additionally, there are some flaws
> in the interface design of the IDE which can be quite confusing for new
> users.
>
> Rev is *very* nice after you know where to look for things, but
> HyperCard it is not.
>
> On Dec 22, 2004, at 8:30 AM, webmailman wrote:
>
>> Dreamcard2.5 slammed hard by PCPLUS!
>> Rating: 4 of 10
>>
>> Time to wake up and smell the coffee, Revolutionaries!
>>
>>
>> In issue 224 (Christmas 2004), Paul Hudson gives readers his insights
>> into Dreamcard 2.5. Here are a few excerpts:
>>
>> "An integrated development environment designed to allow
>> non-programmers to become programmers. Bizarrely designed to make even
>
>> the simplests operations difficult beyond belief, VisualBasic.NET is
>> faster and a great deal easier to use."
>>
>> [Tranlsation: Non-intuitive interface is a severe handicap. VB.NET is
>> easier for beginners.]
>>
>>
>> "If you're a non-programmer and want to stay a non-programmer, for
>> goodness sake use PowerPoint, Access, Visual Basic for Applications,
>> or some other tool you already have. If you want to become a
>> programmer, this is perhaps the finest example of how not to do
>> it--stick with Visual Studio."
>>
>> [Translation: For typical office and home users, use your existing MS
>> tools; they're more than adequate for most of your needs. If you want
>> to test the waters of becomming a programmer, don't waste time with
>> DreamCard; go directly to Visual Studio.]
>>
>>
>> "The GUI looks easier than it is--full marks go to the menu bars for
>> total confusion."
>>
>> [Translation: What were they thinking when they came up with the
>> ridiculous tool bar system?]
>>
>>
>> "As with other graphical IDEs, you can drag and drop components
>> directly onto your window and manipulate them visually--at this point
>> you're thinking that sounds something like VB.NET.  Sadly, that vision
>
>> is cruelly shattered when you try to make your GUI do something.
>> Adding functionality throws you into the deep-end, grasping wildly for
>
>> some sort of documentation to help you out. Documentation there is,
>> but it doesn't help you."
>>
>> [Translation: There is ducomentaion, but the design sux so bad as to
>> be next to useless.]
>>
>>
>> "The 'programs' you make now that you're a programmer get run through
>> DreamCard Player, which is a great way to burst the bubble of
>> professionalism in just three easy steps."
>>
>> [If you want your presentations to look profesional, better stick with
>
>> tried-and-true tools that you probably already know, like PowerPoint.]
>>
>>
>> Looks like some re-think is in order...
>>
>>
>>
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> - -----------------------------------------------------------
> Frank D. Engel, Jr.  <fde101 at fjrhome.net>
>
> $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
> $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
> John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
> Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
> everlasting life.
> $
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