Esperanto & Revolution

Manuel Companys mcompanys at mac.com
Wed Jun 25 10:19:01 EDT 2003


I have not tried Unicode in Revolution yet. But I suspect that the 
problems encountered in Revolution, related to sorting, can only be 
worse with Unicode.

HyperCard used to give us the choice between ASCII sorting, and 
International (ignoring diacritics) — and even, but I am not positive 
about it, the language of the system's interface.

In the programs I am currently working on, I go though thre stages:
1. the zamenhofian H-u sytem
2. A specially made 256 ascii positions font. I can use it for ANY 
language written with the latin alphabet and IPA phonetics. But it can 
only be used in the mac platform, I guess.
3. Unicode. Of course it is the target, but I suspected a lot of 
diffiuclties would arise.

In the meanwhile  wrote a routine that sorts words accordin to the 
rules of several languages, among them h-esperanto. It can be adapted 
to stages b and c.

I am very interested in this question but I will be away for a month.

Manuel

Le mercredi, 25 juin 2003, à 10:03 Europe/Paris, Igor Couto a écrit :

> Hi all!
>
> I wanted to know from the other Esperantists in the list, what your 
> tips and tricks are for dealing with Esperanto text in Revolution. I'm 
> finding it really hard to deal with unicode text in any language that 
> is not a 'keyboard' language in MacOS X (ie, languages that you have 
> to use a unicode keyboard, such as the 'US Extended' keyboard layout, 
> for input). Revolution doesn't seem to want to respect my choice of 
> fonts, and keeps trying to turn my text into Geneva, or tag the font 
> as ". Japanese" - which causes major hassle...
>
> I have found that copying lines of text from one field to another via 
> script is almost impossible, requiring major workarounds - I have 
> tried using both the 'unicodeText' and the 'htmlText' properties.
>
> I have not been very successful in passing strings that contain 
> Esperanto characters as parameters, either. There must be something 
> quite basic that I am doing (or not doing), as my Esperanto characters 
> seem to have this knack for turning into  2 giberish ascii characters.
>
> All in all, it seems that despite its support for unicode, the 
> 'default' for working in Revolution is still ascii text. So, if your 
> application is going to be using Unicode THROUGHOUT and everywhere, 
> you have to use Unicode-converting functions everywhere, as it is 
> always trying to economise space by converting characters to ascii.
>
> I feel that I am missing something basic here - it surely can't be 
> this hard!
>
> Have the other Esperantists in the list been able to successfully work 
> with Esperanto text in their scripts? Any hints would be a great help!
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> --
> Igor de Oliveira Couto
> ----------------------------------
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