REALbasic vs. Revolution

Ro Nagey ro.nagey at
Thu Oct 10 14:19:01 EDT 2002

I, for one, couldn't agree more. IMFO, there has been a near-total lack of
open-ended interface design. Everyone seems, quite literally, to live
'inside the box' or, more precisely, 'inside the screenrect'.

There have been brief examples of tools that allow you to create circular
or, even, free-form stacks...but I haven't seen anything recently. We, the
creators, seem trapped by Windows/Mac boundaries when we should be designing
the new and the different.

Perhaps we should have a contest for the most "un-Windows, un-Mac" app. I
would love to see what our more creative minds could come up with...which,
in turn, might point towards improvements in our tools.

Ro Nagey
Royal Software, Inc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: use-revolution-admin at
> [mailto:use-revolution-admin at]On Behalf Of Rob Cozens
> I see application design as a creative art, and I don't feel that art
> has matured to the point where exploration of non-institutionalized
> techniques should be looked on with such disfavor.  Are Apple & MS
> human interface guideline police any different than the art police
> who kept the impressionists out of the Paris exhibitions?
> IMF(oolesh)O, tuning my UI for internal consistency and optimal
> handling of the task of the application are more important than
> designing it to look like a clone of every other app on the same
> platform.  If RB doesn't allow the freedom to hide the menu bar or
> make an app look totally "non-native", I would see that as stifling
> to my creativity and a BIG minus in comparison to RR.

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