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>   001 - "Jeanne A. E. DeVoto" <je - Re: Closing Decorations Less Stacks
>   002 - "Sjoerd Op 't Land" <sjoe - Re: Customize Rev for automatic email
> feedback?
>   003 - Scott Rossi <scott at tactil - Re: Was  HTML Text Files
>   004 - Judy Perry <jperryl at ecs.f - Re: Customize Rev for automatic email
> feedback?
>   005 - Judy Perry <jperryl at ecs.f - Re: Customize Rev for automatic email
> feedback?
>   006 - Shari <gogypsy at bellsouth. - Re: Requests
>   007 - Shari <gogypsy at bellsouth. - Re: Image resizing
>   008 - John Cuccio <jcuccio at pacb - Dead rev stack
>   009 - "Jeanne A. E. DeVoto" <je - Re: Image resizing
>   010 - "Mark MacKenzie (Shaw)" < - Re: Dead rev stack
>   011 - andu <undo at cloud9.net>    - Re: Dead rev stack
>   012 - "Scott Slaugh" <xslaugh at h - Re: Requests
>   013 - "Mark MacKenzie (Shaw)" < - I Don't Understand Why This Is
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> From: "Jeanne A. E. DeVoto" <jeanne at runrev.com>
> Subject: Re: Closing Decorations Less Stacks
> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:43:16 -0800
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> At 10:27 AM -0800 11/18/2001, Mark MacKenzie (Shaw) wrote:
>> I have a Rev project with three stacks: Main, Pages, and TellTale.[...]
>> After working a bit for development purposes use the file menu to close
>> stack "Main", then stack "TellTale" (these close normally with save as) and
>> then stack "Pages".
>> 
>> Instead of stack  "Pages" closing, Revolution closes (partial quit) leaving
>> the tool pallets behind along with the stack "Pages".  Pallets with close
>> functions can be closed.
>> 
>> Control-shift right click on stack "Pages" allows it to be set toplevel.
> 
> I'm guessing from the above that stack "Pages" perhaps was a palette? The
> Close menu item closes toplevel and modeless windows, but not palettes, so
> it would have closed whichever toplevel or modeless window was frontmost.
> 
> --
> Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ jeanne at runrev.com
> http://www.runrev.com/
> Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer!
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> From: "Sjoerd Op 't Land" <sjoerdoptland at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: Customize Rev for automatic email feedback?
> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:05:28 +0100
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> Judy Perry wrote/ schreef:
> 
>> 
>>> Maybe you should do something like this with a plug-in.
>> 
>> --How so?
> Because otherwise, you would have to hack into Revolution and recompile
> it... And you can use the same plug-in in newer versions.
> 
> Regards, / Groeten,
> Sjoerd
> 
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> From: Scott Rossi <scott at tactilemedia.com>
> Subject: Re: Was  HTML Text Files
> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:25:17 -0800
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> Recently, Geoff Canyon wrote:
> 
>>> At 12:11 PM -0800 11/22/01, Scott Rossi wrote:
>>> There is no such thing as a true "transparent" window.
>> 
>> For comparison, check out the things they're doing with QuickTime:
>> 
>> http://www.movtv.com/
> 
> These masked windows are fun stuff.  If masking counts as being transparent
> (which I suppose it does) then I stand corrected.  And masking is quite
> do-able in MC using the Odo WDEF on MacOS or the Tuviah's External
> Collection on Windows.
> 
> Now have you seen any examples of windows with variable translucency?  I've
> seen one, which is a filter window in version 3 of Kai's Power Tools on the
> Mac.  The window to casts a real time dropshadow on whatever is beneath it,
> and shows a distorted view through a lens.  This is pretty impressive.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> 
> Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
> Email: scott at tactilemedia.com
> Web: www.tactilemedia.com
> 
> 
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> From: Judy Perry <jperryl at ecs.fullerton.edu>
> Subject: Re: Customize Rev for automatic email feedback?
> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:48:56 -0800 (PST)
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> No, I mean, I'm an idiot and don't know *how* to do this...
> 
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Sjoerd Op 't Land wrote:
> 
>>>> Maybe you should do something like this with a plug-in.
>>> 
>>> --How so?
>> Because otherwise, you would have to hack into Revolution and recompile
>> it... And you can use the same plug-in in newer versions.
> 
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
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> From: Judy Perry <jperryl at ecs.fullerton.edu>
> Subject: Re: Customize Rev for automatic email feedback?
> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:48:56 -0800 (PST)
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> In-Reply-To: <200111231508.KAA20596 at www.runrev.com>
> 
> No, I mean, I'm an idiot and don't know *how* to do this...
> 
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Sjoerd Op 't Land wrote:
> 
>>>> Maybe you should do something like this with a plug-in.
>>> 
>>> --How so?
>> Because otherwise, you would have to hack into Revolution and recompile
>> it... And you can use the same plug-in in newer versions.
> 
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
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> From: Shari <gogypsy at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: Requests
> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:24:11 -0500
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> References: <200111221145.GAA31800 at www.runrev.com>
> In-Reply-To: <200111221145.GAA31800 at www.runrev.com>
> 
>> I'm looking at the window and the intersect function is in the Dictionary.
>> (Is that where you were looking for it, or were you checking somewhere
>> else?)
> 
> Transcript Dictionary, under "intersect".  It describes intersect as
> it applies to arrays, but not to objects intersecting each other.
> 
> intersect(objectA,objectB)
> 
> Metacard's gives explanations for both the arrays and the objects.
> 
>> 
>>> I wish I had more control of overall Preference type stuff.  Like
>>> whether help windows open in front of other windows or you have to
>>> drag them out.  Like always colorizing scripts.
>> 
>> I'm not completely sure what you mean by "help windows open in front of
>> other windows" - they shouldn't open behind other windows, certainly - but
>> if you can describe more completely I may be able to put it on the feature
>> request list.
>> 
>> There's an option to turn on automatic colorization in the Preferences (in
>> the Script Editor pane).
> 
> This works if you manually type the script in, but I often work in a
> SimpleText file to update a script, and then paste it into the editor
> (this because of the many crashes I experienced, it guarantees my
> scripts will not get mangled, and I have a copy of them outside of
> Revolution to replace any that do get mangled.
> 
> If you paste the script in, you must manually colorize it.
> 
> As for windows hiding other windows, for example if I have the
> colorization window open, and then open a help window, it opens
> behind the colorization window.  Other windows obscure the help
> windows too.  They should always open in front of everything.
> 
>>> I wish there were a window with the active variables and their contents.
>> 
>> You can see a list of global variables and their contents in the message
>> box. (It's the fourth tab from the left.)
> 
> Yes, but at the expense of having the message box available, which I
> use a lot.  If I understand it correctly, I cannot use both at the
> same time.
> 
>>> Once I created a menu (menubar type menu), now I have to click on the
>>> Toolbox or Application Overview to have the full set of development
>>> menus.  Otherwise, when I'm in the stack, the only menus up there are
>>> the ones I created.  I wish that weren't so.  Once I release it,
>>> obviously I want only my menus up there, but during development I
>>> want both sets of menus.
>> 
>> Bit hard to do, since you'd need two sets of the "standard" menus (on Mac
>> OS, Apple menu, Help menu, File, and Edit at least would be duplicated). If
>> I'm envisioning what you're asking for correctly...
> 
> Hypercard did it.  It added on the menus you created, to the menubar
> after the "standard" menus.  So both were always available at the
> same time.  I never deleted the standard menus until saving the stack
> to a standalone in Hypercard.  I could work on the stack, with all
> the development menus available, and at the same time have the menus
> I added.




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