[MC_IDE] Quick Poll

[Shari]

Jacque,

>As far as I know, you're the only one who couldn't make it work. I 
>suspect for your stacks you only need to deal with password 
>protection and embedded MC resources. Also, possibly, you may be 
>having trouble if you haven't set the HCAddressing property to 
>false, if your stacks are imported HC stacks.

I did make several attempts to figure out why my main software and 
Rev wouldn't play nice in the sandbox and I tried to find workarounds 
that didn't require major changes.  I do not recall if the 
HCaddressing was one of the things I tried, and truthfully, I don't 
remember if I ported it directly from HC or simply rebuilt it from 
scratch.  Either way, I could try the HCaddressing.  I no longer port 
from HC to MC/Rev, I build new and rewrite the code, but the existing 
projects may have been imported.

I remember attempting to change the names of the embedded stacks that 
I'd altered in some way, and then having them rename on launch (but 
only if it was a standalone).  Such as xAnswer for the embedded 
stack, renamed to Answer on standalone launch.  Then trying the Rev 
builder and still running into some issue and throwing up my hands 
and saying, Metacard is SOOOOO much better than this (insert cuss 
words), I love the MC IDE so why am I trying to fight with that other 
thing?  Then setting it aside.

I no longer embed those stacks either, and my two newer (in the 
works) projects don't use Ask/Answer at all.  I created my own 
versions and call them up differently.  But that doesn't help the 
existing projects.


>
>>Now I am afraid to move forward because I keep seeing discussions on the
>>Rev list about bugs in things that have been solid for a decade.
>
>Version 4.6 is very solid. Are you sure the bugs you noticed aren't 
>for mobile? The desktop build is very good. Can you remember any 
>bugs you've seen that impact desktop work?

As everything seems to get discussed on the same list, which tends to 
be highly active, unless you read every single post it all gets 
jumbled up.  I have no idea if the bugs would affect me.  Just the 
sheer volume of bugs that get discussed, and not knowing for sure 
which are desktop versus mobile, is distressing.

I don't know how the whole mobile thing is handled.  I know that 
before, there was ONE engine that deployed to Mac, Win, Linux, etc. 
So while there may have been a few platform specific bugs, for the 
most part the meat was the same regardless.

With all the additions of mobile, web, etc., and the different 
purchase options, I don't know how that is handled in the engine. 
Are there totally separate engines now for each area?  Is it still 
one big engine for all?  My license is good until the end of the 
world and then far beyond that, so I can upgrade, I've just been 
afraid to.

>
>>I know the standalone issue will revisit me soon as I'm working on
>>something actively right now. I dread that moment.
>
>You'll be left in the dust if you don't upgrade, especially if the 
>MC IDE ports the SB from LiveCode with just a few tweaks. I believe 
>that's the plan.
>
>I'm still willing to work with you on the standalone issue. I'm not 
>aware of anyone else having trouble. The LiveCode tech queue hasn't 
>had a single inquiry about it for at least the last several years.

As I've never found the Rev standalone builder to be user friendly, I 
never reported an issue to them, I simply sidestepped it and used MC. 
I don't want to set aside the current project to rebuild a project 
that's out there and basically happy for most folks.  But I will take 
you up on the offer of assistance with the standalone issues when the 
current project is done and ready for the build.  This will be my 
first release of something NEW for a long time, as opposed to 
something updated.  I'm really excited and expect that it will be 
well received :-D

So, yes, the short answer is that I will take you up on the offer as 
soon as this project is ready.  And again when I update the existing 
project as that is the cranky one.

-- Shari -- (who took a break from programming to write a book about 
a bad dog we adopted, we squashed most of the bugs that we inherited 
with her :-)  The bugs she still has are livable.  There are one, 
maybe two more dog books on the horizon.  But not until this current 
project gets released.  Eggs in many baskets and all that.)
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