Sample stacks / revOnline [was: Re: Suggestion: Non-Appbuilding Community Edition]

[Alex Tweedly]

They're only used for uploading or editing stacks that you want to 
share. (Oh, now that I think about it, maybe also to rate a stack from 
someone else).

I thought about just removing those buttons from the plugin (IMHO, the 
upload/edit functions are fine as they are), but then I thought someone 
might spend time trying to find how to do those actions; better, I 
think, to have an obvious button which immediately tells you that the 
plugin doesn't support it.

The main reason for not including that functionality was that I felt it 
was just a bit "off" to have a plugin ask for your username/password; I 
was glad to find that there doesn't seem to much need to do that part.

Alex.

On 30/09/2021 18:50, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote:
> This is really nice and fast, Alex. Thanks again for doing this as I’ve always felt that LC’s Sample Stacks is a great and often overlooked resource save for it’s interface. I note that "Log In" and "Sign Up" do not work. Is there any value in those items?
>
> Roger
>
>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm ... not sure why.
>>
>> Easy way : https://www.tweedly.org/Downloads/samplestacks.livecode
>>
>> Or: start the IDE, and  in the toolbar (4th or so from the right) is "Sample Stacks".
>>
>> Then
>>
>>   - select "View as: List"
>>
>>   - select "All" on left hand side
>>
>>   - select "Sort by: Date"
>>
>>   - then reverse order the sort - and it's the most recent one !!
>>
>>
>> Or - select "Plugin" in the tags column (5th one down), then type "sample" in the search box and hit "Go"
>>
>> Alex.
>>
>>
>> On 30/09/2021 16:17, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote:
>>> This sounds absolutely wonderful, Alex, except I can’t find it as you described.
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30/09/2021 15:02, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote:
>>>>> On 06/09/2021 15:14, Kevin Miller via use-livecode wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Upgrading this could be a very useful project. There is a lot of content in there but it has the issues you list.
>>>> So I had a look at what could be done just within the IDE for revonline. There's an old joke about a tourist in Ireland who realizes she(*) is lost, and ask for directions from an old farmer at the side of the road. "Well", says he, "if I wanted to go there, I wouldn't start from here."
>>>>
>>>> I found the revonline scripts rather complex, and I couldn't easily see how to solve the issues mentioned previously, in that context. And the bottom line is that it's not a complex problem that needs to be solved. The login / register / upload features all work just fine - the problems are with the searching / browsing / filtering, and are generally related to either (very) poor performance or unclear UI.
>>>>
>>>> In the end, I just couldn't produce worthwhile improvements, so instead I wrote a plugin that handles the searching / filtering / browsing / downloading parts, and which omits the login/upload parts entirely.
>>>>
>>>> It can be downloaded from "Sample Stacks" in the IDE toolbar (it's called "Sample Stacks" and is tagged as IDE and Plugin). Install as a plugin in the usual way.
>>>>
>>>> UI is very similar to the existing IDE version - simplified a bit.
>>>>
>>>>   - search box automatically (and immediately) updates as you type, so the "Go" button was removed
>>>>
>>>> - everything happens in < 1 second, so the progress bar was removed.
>>>>
>>>>   - the grid/list choice was removed (the old 'list' stye was hard to use or understand)
>>>>
>>>>   -  tags in the left-hand box are alphabetized
>>>>
>>>>   - the grid is a single long scrolling group, rather than being paged and scrolled
>>>>
>>>> There is one issue I haven;t tracked down yet - sometimes the scrolling using mousepad doesn't work initially; scrolling with the scrollbar seems to be enough to "revive" it.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you try it and have any problems or suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Alex.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (*) "she" is not sexist - had it been a man he would never have admitted to being lost and so would never have asked the question :-)
>>>>
>>>>
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