Suggestion: Non-Appbuilding Community Edition

Bernard Devlin bdrunrev at gmail.com
Thu Sep 2 19:16:36 EDT 2021 

>>
But the best way of selling it is to FIX the bloody IDE - I am running on a
16G 1 year Old 8th Generation CoreI7  processor and it  STILL runs like
treacle.
<<

As I don't recognize this experience can you put a video of your experience
on the cloud?  I don't run on hardware anything like as beefy as you have.
The only machine I've got where LC is slow is one where Windows itself is
really slow (a 4yo laptop).  On my two Apple machines (M1 and Intel, the
latter is 5yo) it is not "like treacle", neither is it slow on my i5
Windows machine.

It's a bit hard for LC Ltd to identify and fix something if it's only found
in some odd cases.

Regards, Bernard






On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 10:34 PM Lagi Pittas via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Trials of 14 days or even 30 days are a waste of time. I can install
> something and use it for a couple of days - then life / work gets in the
> way
> so It sits on the computer for 31 days and then times out.
>
>  You then have to waste your time and the companies to get an extension,
> and by the time they answer
> you get cheesed off and remove the  program.
>
> The BEST trial is the one that lasts for 30 actual executions or 6 months
> (whichever comes first).
>
> This stops the clever  SOD who decides to keep it running without exiting
> for 6 months but it times out anyway.
> Even better if he keeps it on for 2 days it counts as "executing" twice so
> it will last 30 days.
>
> This means I have 30 days over a 6 month period to really test it without
> rushing.
>
> The people who would game the system are the people who won't be loyal
> customer anyway, so not giving a worthwhile trial period handicaps those
> who want to give it a good try.
>
> You can also put a  nag screen  at the start of any executable with an OK
> button  link to a special discounted price - free marketing (what a
> brilliant Idea, why didn't I think of it?).
>
> But the best way of selling it is to FIX the bloody IDE - I am running on a
> 16G 1 year Old 8th Generation CoreI7  processor and it  STILL runs like
> treacle.
>
> If I downloaded it today as a new person it would be off my machine in less
> than 30 minutes.
>
> You could also use this as your "marketing" system by "giving it away"  to
> schools for nothing and without the trial period but the nag screen.
>
> It can then be used by the students to learn programming at no cost - and
> some of the students parent might pony up for a paid for version at a
> student price (with no expiring standalones of cours - the most stupid idea
> of the lot so far)
>
>
> Anyway Kevin, have I/we wastedour time again putting out these cranky,
> stupid and not workable suggestions?.
>
> Lagi
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2 Sept 2021 at 15:55, Kevin Miller via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > We *are* considering the length of the trial actively, we may well give a
> > longer trial a shot at some point.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
> > LiveCode: Develop Yourself
> >
> > On 02/09/2021, 15:51, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via
> > use-livecode" <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com on behalf of
> > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >     True, true.
> >
> >     There could be a small group of programmers that pass a stack around
> > but you would not be able to convince/teach a civilian to install a
> > programming IDE and explain how to run the stack along with any other
> > supporting files, SW or plug-ins... Mobile would be a non-starter. I
> would
> > not dismiss this out-of-hand. A 90 day free IDE could also be an option.
> >
> >     Ralph DiMola
> >     IT Director
> >     Evergreen Information Services
> >     rdimola at evergreeninfo.net
> >
> >
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On
> > Behalf Of Kevin Miller via use-livecode
> >     Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2021 10:31 AM
> >     To: How to use LiveCode
> >     Cc: Kevin Miller; Michael Kristensen
> >     Subject: Re: Suggestion: Non-Appbuilding Community Edition
> >
> >     Thanks for the constructive suggestion. Unfortunately with a free
> > non-app building version, everyone who needs to run an app can just
> > download that.
> >
> >     Kind regards,
> >
> >     Kevin
> >
> >     Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
> >     LiveCode: Develop Yourself
> >
> >     On 02/09/2021, 14:49, "use-livecode on behalf of Michael Kristensen
> > via use-livecode" <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com on behalf of
> > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >         Hi there
> >
> >         I suggest that there could be a Non-Appbuilding Community Edition
> >
> >         That would be for personal use, and to learn coding.
> >
> >         Michael
> >
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