opened socket in IDE prevents script changes

Alex Tweedly alex at
Fri Jan 15 11:58:21 EST 2021

On 15/01/2021 15:30, Bernard Devlin via use-livecode wrote:
> I'm seeing exactly the same range of behaviours I described earlier for
> 9.5.1 on Win 10 but with 9.6.1 on OS X.
> It's very strange that Alex is also editing scripts with sockets
> opened/closed but  not losing changes made in the script editor. I also had
> 3 crashes on OS X within 30 minutes of working on this stack.
> Alex, are you using the IDE's script editor or some external editor?  If
> you are using that script editor, once you've opened a socket could you add
> a comment to your stack script, apply, close the script editor, then edit
> the script again to see if the comment has persisted?  I have to quit LC to
> make any changes to a stack once I've opened a socket.

Yes, I'm using standard IDE script editor.

The added comment persists, both through  "apply - close - reopen" and 
"apply - save stack - close editor - reopen", and to stack and card scripts.

> It seems to me that once a socket has been opened that the IDE is no longer
> persisting changes.  I'm pretty sure I didn't see this behaviour on my
> previous project using sockets.

Have to ask

  - do you have any plugins that might use sockets ?

  - I'm using Indy version - let me know if you're on Community / 
Business and I can try that too
       I think :-)

  - do you, or have you, used other editors / debuggers that might 
affect this ?

  - do you, or have you, used remote debugging ?

That's all the straws I can think of for now.


> Regards
> Bernard
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 12:21 PM Bernard Devlin <bdrunrev at> wrote:
>> Thanks Alex for your quick response.
>> I'll try with 9.6.1 on Mac.  The only other difference between us is that
>> my sockets are interacting with a process outside of LC. But I can't see
>> why that would make a difference (particularly once I've closed all
>> sockets, I wouldn't expect sockets to interfere with scripts being
>> changed).
>> Regards,
>> Bernard
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 12:07 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at> wrote:
>>> I've not seen any such problems - though with 9.6.1 / Mac.
>>> I've spent most of the last week in the IDE, with two or more stacks
>>> open (one server, one client - occasionally multiple client stacks) so I
>>> have multiple open sockets (both 'accept'ing and 'open'ed)  almost all
>>> the time, and had no problems with IDE or script editor.
>>> (I know - that's no consolation, but I thought I'd mention it in case
>>> 9.6.1 was an option for you and might just help:-)
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