Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

[Heriberto Torrado]

Thanks Andre,

I realized that BSD kernels are not the same as MacOS kernels.
As you say: MacOS has a hybrid kernel based on XNU and some parts of BSD.

I'm only interested in running the Livecode server version and not the IDE.
So, I think that compiling could be the best solution.

I have been coding with Livecode for several years almost every week.
So my mind is very "Livecodized".
In fact, when I have to change to PHP, JS, Python or Golang, I feel very 
unproductive. Everything takes much more time than doing it with Livecode.

I would like not only to run Livecode server on BSD, but also on 
different hardware platforms.
I think on the IOT field Livecode script could have a good opportunity 
to be a killer language.

In the past, I tried to compile Livecode server for this devices, but I 
got several errors: 
https://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69&product_id=279

So, here is my idea: What about to create non official versions of 
Livecode server (for scripting purposes) for other platforms not yet 
supported?
I think it could be good for RunRev: They won't have to work supporting 
those versions and Livecode language will spread to other fields.

What do you guys think? Do you think we'll have enough manpower into our 
community to do that?

Best,
Hery



On 10/28/20 11:24 AM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 21:31, Paul McClernan via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>>> OS X, Windows 95 through Windows 10, Raspberry Pi and "several variations
>>> of Unix (I think is just means Linux)".
>>>
>>> I'm thinking about tinkering with a FreeBSD server and LiveCode server,
>>> but I didn't see a "UNIX" version, so I suppose that I have to compile
>> it.
>>> Have any of you installed LiveCode server on FreeBSD (or Solaris)?
>>>
>> As others mentioned, this is dated information. However, last I checked
>> macOS (or rather the "Darwin" layer of macOS) is POSIX compliant and built
>> from BSD UNIX 4.4 & bits of FreeBSD. So, I would not be all that surprised
>> if a LiveCode for macOS GUI-less/CLI executable could run on some other
>> BSD.
>>
>>
> That is not really how this works.
>
> macOS is built on top of old NEXTSTEP and it is POSIX compliant buuuuut
> that doesn't mean that LC from mac can work on BSD. MacOS uses the XNU
> kernel, its executable file format and shared library file format are
> unique and not related at all to anything that a BSD can run.
>
> FreeBSD can run Linux binaries though as can be seen in the FreeBSD
> Handbook:
>
> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/linuxemu.html
>
> This is done through emulation and I can't vouch for the performance or
> correctness of it but, in theory you can install the necessary components
> and libraries and then be able to run the Linux version of LC in FreeBSD.
>
> Another option is trying to build from source. To be effective, this would
> require knowledge of the FreeBSD ports and packages system besides knowing
> enough of LC source and C++ to patch anything needed. I bet they'd love
> such a contribution if you have the chops to do it.
>
>