Times ARE changing
richmondmathewson at gmail.com
Sun Jun 7 07:24:05 EDT 2020
Well put, good point.
On 7.06.20 11:06, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
> Richmond wrote:
> > If some of these types who go on endlessly about anything that might
> > be vaguely construed as 'racist' were capable of slightly more subtle
> > thought they might examine intentions: after all if we all judged
> > people on what they looked like most of us would be out of a job and
> > starving.
> There is also the problem of linguistic false cognates. Similar words
> from different regions often have very different etymologies.
> While the stories of the old British Empire can be charming (I love
> the two hard-bound volumes of Kipling my father gave me), the Indian
> tale is unrelated to both the origins of the American word "sambo" and
> its colloquial use.
> On this continent, much of our language is influenced by the Spanish
> who were among the first Europeans to explore and settle most the
> From Wikipedia:
> The word "sambo" came into the English language from the Latin
> American Spanish word zambo, the Spanish word in Latin America
> for a person of mixed African and Native American descent.
> This in turn may have come from one of three African language
> sources. Webster's Third International Dictionary holds that
> it may have come from the Kongo word nzambu ("monkey") — the
> z of (Latin American) Spanish being pronounced here like the
> English s.
> Complicating matters further is the difference between etymology and
> popular usage, as Ms Gay has reminded us with good humor over the
> years. :)
> English-speaking people in the US didn't use the word until after the
> American Civil War, popularized mostly by the losing side of that
> conflict as a derogatory term.
> Though the war was long ago, the legacy is evident. We needn't go any
> further on that here in this programmer's list.
> It is indeed unfortunate that those who used the word most commonly in
> the States have cast an unfortunate pallor on a tale from the other
> side of the world, and that Samuel Battistone and Newell Bohnett found
> themselves in an awkward spot with their restaurants well known for
> excellent pancake breakfasts.
> Indeed, the Santa Barbara restaurant is still family-owned, and the
> current manager Chad Stevens has expressed a hopeful note about the
> name change that goes into effect this Friday:
> "With the changing world and circumstances, the name isn’t just about
> what it means to us, but the meaning it holds for others. At this
> point, our family has looked into our hearts and realize that we must
> be sensitive when others whom we respect make a strong appeal. So
> today we stand in solidarity with those seeking change and doing our
> Maybe best of all, the new temporary name they'll be using while the
> family decides on a permanent one is: "☮&LOVE"
> By any name, the restaurant at 216 W. Cabrillo Blvd in Santa Barbara
> is well worth making a point of visiting whenever you're passing
> through that part of California's coast. The pancakes are truly awesome.
> This is quite off-topic, and I hope this momentary indulgence in
> etymology and pancakes doesn't stray too close to cheese.
> Back to our regularly-scheduled LiveCode discussion, where I'll post a
> question about the Browser widget next...
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