ProtonMail vs Apple

[Andre Garzia]

Stephen,

Web Apps don't level the playing field because Apple controls the web
engine on iOS. They don't allow any other web engine on the platform, so if
they don't implement an API that would hurt their monopoly for whatever
reason their PR machine uses as justification, we end up with a weaker web
platform.

Apple has done some superb stuff recently with their browser. Their
adoption of the webextensions API alone is a major victory for me. Still
hold all the keys and without competition it becomes hard to advance
something.




On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 at 19:50, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I thought "web apps" were going to level the playing field, and they could
> be made to look just like iPhone apps on an iPhone, one just rigs the css
> and graphics.  How did that work out?   I do love Livecode
> server....brilliant.
>
> (full disclosure,  I hate using phones for stuff I can do on a desktop, a
> big reason why I gave up development except for desktop apps I make to
> support my other activities )
>
> ( I make video too, and will not do 'portrait' mode under any circumstances
> )
>
> (I'm watching Lewis Black as I type this, pardon my tone)
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>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 11:27 AM Brian Milby via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > Not sure the question is relevant.  You chose to buy the iHouse over the
> > droidHouse for some reason.  Maybe you wanted to live in the neighborhood
> > with the lowest crime rate.
> >
> > Also, until Apple is forced to allow other companies to make compatible
> > phones, I don’t see how the logic works.  Google doesn’t make the only
> > Android phone.
> >
> > When I read Apple’s guidelines I don’t see anything about price parity.
> > You can’t point out that it is cheaper elsewhere, but are you required to
> > charge the same?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Aug 7, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > >> Even with 58% of the US smartphone market Apple does not actually
> have a
> > > monopoly.
> > >> Now there may be plenty of good reasons to object to Apple’s app store
> > > policies but let’s not misuse the term monopoly.
> > >
> > > There is another way to approach this. Apple has the monopoly of the
> iOS
> > > market, they can dictate and abuse their authority in that market and
> > there
> > > is nothing iOS users can do about that. There is no other app store to
> > buy
> > > apps from. Now contrast that with Android. Google doesn't have the
> > monopoly
> > > on Android. You have other app stores besides Google Play, other device
> > > makers, and as a developer you can ship apps on your own and on all or
> > any
> > > of the stores.
> > >
> > > If you allow me an analogy, imagine that you bought an iHouse, it is a
> > > pleasant house, very elegant. Still, all the furniture, all the food,
> > > everything you might ever want to put inside your iHouse needs to come
> > from
> > > Apple Store. Is that still your house? Does Apple have a monopoly?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 at 18:20, Jim Lambert via use-livecode <
> > >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> "A monopoly refers to when a company and its product offerings
> dominate
> > a
> > >> sector or industry. Monopolies can be considered an extreme result of
> > >> free-market capitalism <
> > >> https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/freemarket.asp> in that absent
> any
> > >> restriction or restraints, a single company or group becomes large
> > enough
> > >> to own all or nearly all of the market (goods, supplies, commodities,
> > >> infrastructure, and assets) for a particular type of product or
> service.
> > >> The term monopoly is often used to describe an entity that has total
> or
> > >> near-total control of a market.”
> > >> https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/monopoly.asp
> > >>
> > >> Even with 58% of the US smartphone market Apple does not actually
> have a
> > >> monopoly.
> > >> Now there may be plenty of good reasons to object to Apple’s app store
> > >> policies but let’s not misuse the term monopoly.
> > >>
> > >> Jim Lambert
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