MP3s

Bob Sneidar bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com
Mon Apr 13 10:13:31 EDT 2020


The Dark Side of the Moon tour was a true Quad system, and I heard it in an outdoor amphitheater. I’ve never heard anything so amazing before or since. But that was mixed quad. Simulators are a different animal. If I am not mistaken they break out the sound by frequency ranges. 

Bob S


> On Apr 13, 2020, at 1:30 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Richmond, can’t resist saying that I can remember quad… I was never convinced. It was certainly a fashion. Comes into one of my favourite films, ‘Local Hero’, where the scallywag fisherman from Murmansk connects with the wet-behind-the-ears young oil man from Houston.  it was just a little moment in history when such a bit of dialogue might have existed… but I digress.
> 
> I have tinnitus, and hearing aids, but I can still enjoy a live, non-amplified performance, and there is no equipment I could afford that could make a recording in any format sound as good.
> 
> OT, I know.
> 
> Graham
> 
>> On 13 Apr 2020, at 09:42, Richmond via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Having the ability to import resources into a stack, whether they be images, videos or sounds is a great strength;
>> and much better than having a ReadMe document accompanying one's standalones telling people where they have to
>> bung a slew of referenced resources . . . knowing that about 50% of people will put them in the wrong place and then
>> complain they want their money back because your application doesn't work.
>> 
>> This may be "old-fashioned", but so am I teaching kids how to program with BBC computers from the 1980s;
>> doesn't mean it is a bad thing.
>> 
>> And on Linux . . . what a shambles.
>> 
>> Re MP3s /per se/: either LiveCode should be capable of embedding them, or, possibly by leveraging open source
>> code, it should be able to read MP3 files and store the musical data contained within them inwith stacks in some
>> format that can then be played . . .
>> 
>> The compression available via MP3 well outweighs any possible loss in sound quality - frankly I wonder if anyone over the
>> age of 18 can tell the difference unless the sound file is then played through some high-end equipment.
>> 
>> When I was 23 I was walking past a HiFi shop in Durham City when I was seduced to go inside and listen
>> to a demonstration of Quadraphonic sound (does anyone except me actually remember that?). I was sat down in an
>> office chair between 4 speakers and listened to some music by Queen; then again on another chair between 2 speakers.
>> A slightly oily fellow with an unctuous voice then said, "Of course you heard the difference between the stereo
>> and the quad, didn't you?"  Talk about leading tag questions. Feeling like a "right peasant," I said, "No" and left.
>> 
>> I did actually hear a difference: but not in terms of the musical quality as such, but in the effect of being "within' the space where the music was taking place.
>> 
>> I went home and by jacking together 6 loud speakers and a tobacco tin to my record player I got a Quad effect for nix!
>> 
>> Purists (err; sound experts or plain posers? who knows) would have howled.
>> 
>> Now I listen to any old music "as it comes" and feel lucky that I can hear it, especially on mornings like this one
>> when my tinnitus is singing a song of its own.
>> 
>> Embed, embed, embed . . . Please.
>> 
>> Best, Richmond.
>> 
>> On 13.04.20 2:01, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Graham Samuel wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Still, subject closed - I presume the mother ship has long ago decided
>>>> not to enhance LC in this respect any time soon.
>>> 
>>> Not at all.  I noticed this thread got off on the tangent of codec specifics, but never addressed your core question:
>>> 
>>> LiveCode can play all of those and more.
>>> 
>>> Just not specifically using the old audioClip method.  That method was an early attempt to emulate HC's resource-fork-based SND clips, and never got past using the .au format which was popular way back in the day on the platform MetaCard was born on, Unix.
>>> 
>>> Since then audio and video support assumes richer formats of greater length than are practical with embedded media clips.
>>> 
>>> Play them as files and you should be fine.
>>> 
>>> (That is, unless you need to deploy to Linux, where the Player object started breaking a few years after the turn of the century and has gotten steadily worse since.)
>>> 
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