Re: Catalina and stuff other than 32bit—USB broken

Dar Scott Consulting dsc at swcp.com
Wed Oct 16 12:34:15 EDT 2019


I'm not sure how this addresses my concern. Uh, rant. Lament. 

If this is an OS problem, then a Hackintosh system would not solve it.
If this is a driver problem, then perhaps Clover will work, but maybe not.
(When I build a machine, I would use Windows or Linux, so—for me—Hackintosh is not a solution.)

I like working with USB gadgets on the Mac, but if "Works with Catalina" has to become a de facto standard for USB, then Apple is going to lose a market. A virtual Windows machine is of no help here. 

Oh, and I said AdaFruit has a fix for Feather boards. It doesn't work for me. 

This also means my advice to use virtual machines for Windows is flawed.

Maybe this is Apple's way of saying I should get a new Mac, but I hear even some new Macs have the problem.

> On Oct 14, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> That is why I rely for the last 10 years on myself built Hackintosh systems. They run faster for less money and they are modular and easy to upgrade. 
> With the introduction of Clover it has never been a problem to use hardware components (especially graphic cards, wifi/bt cards, sound cards etc.) which were not supported by Apple anymore.
> 
> On 14/10/2019, 21:58, "use-livecode on behalf of Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode" <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com on behalf of use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>    Catalina does not recognize the bootloader for atmega32u4 Arduino boards such as Leonardo. The IDE 1.8.10 avr toolchain works (64-bit); this is not related to 32-bit. 
> 
>    Catalina does not recognize the AdaFruit Feather ...BOOT drives. Actually this started with macOS 10.14.4. According to Dan Halbert, "Apple changed how USB devices are recognized on certain Macs", creating a timing problem. AdaFruit has a fix.
> 
>    There are some indications that some USB devices made with Jan Atkinson's examples are having problems on Catalina on some hardware.
> 
>    I don't know if Apple is stepping outside USB specs or is pushing the specs. Or whether the small board community has been spec-lax. 
> 
>    Not directly LiveCode related, but more reason to hesitate, especially for gadget folks like me. 
> 
>    Dar Scott
>    Mad Scientist
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