Recommended specs for Windows Development computer.

Fri Oct 4 13:50:23 EDT 2019

How do you people cope with the differences on fields and knobs having text in it on the different OS-es? If i only build on windows even for Linux and Macos, text and such never fits in the fields.And i have to adjust it and maintain a stack for each OS.

Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> schreef op 4 oktober 2019 19:40:16 CEST:
>The original question mentioned testing and debugging. 
>
>I tend to develop on the Mac and test on Windows. At times I need to
>develop on Windows because there are unknowns in the environment or I'm
>using some Windows specific hardware. Especially internal hardware.
>
>It is a big pain to have multiple programming stations, so I set up
>Windows workstations with monitors, keyboards and mice as needed. I
>prefer to have my big wide monitor on my Mac and then remote in. I
>currently use no-machine to access Windows machines.
>
>The focus in the discussion has been on processor, RAM and disk. For me
>however, other hardware is important. That is, that which makes it hard
>to test with virtualization needs to be in the real hardware. And often
>one needs real hardware. Virtual Box has been good to me as far as
>emulating hardware, but I need to test on real stuff.
>
>So, for me, the most important part is not so much processor-RAM-disk,
>but I/O. I want lots of USB and a variety of such, front and back. I
>want board slots. I want multiple NICs. RS-232 is a big plus. A
>powerful GPU is a plus, but I hope to build a computation server
>someday. Multiple kinds of video is good as well as handling multiple
>monitors. I want Bluetooth and Wifi. I want WoL. Though I use
>no-machine, I want to be able to remote desktop in, so W8.1 needs to be
>Pro. As soon as I get a computer, a customer will come up with
>something I neglected, so those slots are important. I get Pro for
>everything if I can.) For a different machine, I might want something
>with a touch screen that I can carry around.
>
>In my last buy, I compromised. I did not get high performance or slots.
>
>And speaking of Pro, Windows 10 Pro is, out of the box, friendly to us
>old guys.
>
>As far as development on the Mac, Bootcamp does not work well for me, I
>want to see all of my screens on all of my computers. Parallels is
>good, but I have found that when Parallels and VMWare say no, Virtual
>Box says yes. What good is higher RPM when you can't get it into
>reverse? In general, virtualization allows me to swap out hardware or
>display sizes quickly, bing, bing, bing. Network configuration testing?
>No searching for switches, routers and cables. 
>
>Just going by my memory (I recommend against trusting it), I do not see
>a big performance hit. I think LiveCode on Windows 10 Pro on Virtual
>Box 6 on Mac Mini runs slightly faster than LiveCode on macOS on
>MacMini. That could be my imagination. Disk I/O might be a lot slower,
>but it did not affect me. I typically use a LAN drive for such testing,
>anyway, unless the tests directly involve a local drive.
>
>I have used MSDN Operating Systems to build a variety of virtual
>machines and to load on real machines. However, things seem to be
>different. Now the best way seems to be Visual Studio Pro, $1200 for
>the first year, $800 for subsequent. 
>
>Dar
>Mad Scientist
>
>
>> On Oct 4, 2019, at 2:34 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
><use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> For anyone truly interested in the original question of "Recommended
>specs for Windows Development computer"
>> 
>> (... as opposed to any OS-partisan virtue signaling, or avoiding
>Windows hardware, or maintaining a single computer as the rule, etc
>...)
>> 
>> here's my take, from many years of often "Windows first, but not
>Windows only" experience:
>> 
>> - Biggest OS difference/biggest factor: anti-virus. I've literally
>seen a Mac running with software techniques similar to today's PC
>antivirus, and similar results.
>> 
>> - I don't trust my PC to run Mac, nor my Mac to run PC. I get my
>hands dirty on both, with dedicated hardware for each. You notice
>more....
>> 
>> - PC doesn't require a huge investment. I use a budget (but not
>bottom) laptop with as much hard disk and RAM as possible. Currently an
>i5 chip and 8 GB memory, 1 TB RAM.
>> 
>> - The specs I listed are quite adequate for professional LC dev. Any
>extra power feels great, but remember that it also could cause you to
>overlook issues affecting some of your end users. I intentionally use
>budget hardware to make sure software is snappy for everyone.
>> 
>> - Again, with Windows 10 it's all about managing antivirus and
>various other software/settings to be allowed to use the inherent
>performance of your machine. The power is in there, but you have to
>remove the ball and chains.
>> 
>> - Any OS-partisan biases (in other words reliving the 80s and 90s,
>which felt so good) will tend to be confirmed by their own cognitive
>influence on your perception of your limited experiences on another OS.
>Using a system efficiently takes experience and learning, built into
>habits. (There once was a system called MacOS that for a number of
>years pretty much broke that rule. And during those bygone years, I was
>proudly "Mac-first, but not Mac only.") Whatever OS you use, just
>realize that many everyday users are equally efficient on the other
>operating systems.
>> 
>> I like having and using both almost daily, as long as I'm developing
>for both. And developing for both is specifically how I ended up right
>here! :)
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Curry Kenworthy
>> 
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