Subject: Re: ...and Livecode... where are we now

[Bob Sneidar]

+1

> On Oct 3, 2019, at 12:35 , R.H. via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Some of the rants are leading nowhere.
> 
> I do not think that anybody writing as Richmond did has ever been involved
> in keeping up a company with such little assumed revenue to pay from for
> salaries. And I would love to see such guys running a company and make
> money. They will all fail. But to make money is what a company needs to do.
> Any constructive suggestion?
> 
> A free community version does not generate income. And rants about
> "community" is unfair and the words used are unpleasant to read for users
> on the list. They do not convey understanding but express personal anger.
> Who shall deal with that?
> 
> There are many parts and waiting bugs that can be addressed, but LiveCode
> is a huge endeavor addressed by limited resources. I ran over 100
> developers for business solutions with my own company and know what I am
> talking about.
> 
> Put a million dollars in, outsource bug fixing and testing, anticipate a
> business model that works. It is very difficult, even impossible, unless
> supported by giants nobody here wants to see on board.
> 
> If you can do better, come up with suggestions that do not put everbody
> down. There is also a responsibilty when writing to a public group. If you
> want politics, go to politics. There is enough hate I do not want to see it
> here.
> 
> I never felt and saw that the LiveCode dev team is not serious and not
> trying their very best. Nobody in software development can fully predict
> how things will work out. It is an inherent problem due to the complexity
> of the subject.
> 
> In my company, when I counted estimated development time, I multiplied it
> by the factor 4. But who will pay? Only big companies pay serious money for
> bug fixing and for each new release. So, I moved main funding to getting
> paid for hours spent then. Not so possible here.
> 
> I also paid to the LC fundraising campagne and was already satisfied with
> the support for Unicode. I never expected that everything would be possible
> to fully do for such relatively small amount of money. I never had such
> attitude. And nobody else could have done it. The team worked dedicated and
> hard. But they also have to live.
> 
> Hundreds of millions are lost by companies for that complexity reason in
> development. It is easy to break down and very hard to build up.
> 
> And in comparison to all those I know as well trying, LC does a fantastic
> job for do many years. Thanks to such wonderful team.
> 
> To be on the edge of everything, pay dozens of millions monthly! Not even
> Adobe or Microsoft can do it and fail often enough.
> 
> Be decent!
> 
> Roland
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