Subject: Re: ...and Livecode... where are we now

[R.H.]

Some of the rants are leading nowhere.

I do not think that anybody writing as Richmond did has ever been involved
in keeping up a company with such little assumed revenue to pay from for
salaries. And I would love to see such guys running a company and make
money. They will all fail. But to make money is what a company needs to do.
Any constructive suggestion?

A free community version does not generate income. And rants about
"community" is unfair and the words used are unpleasant to read for users
on the list. They do not convey understanding but express personal anger.
Who shall deal with that?

There are many parts and waiting bugs that can be addressed, but LiveCode
is a huge endeavor addressed by limited resources. I ran over 100
developers for business solutions with my own company and know what I am
talking about.

Put a million dollars in, outsource bug fixing and testing, anticipate a
business model that works. It is very difficult, even impossible, unless
supported by giants nobody here wants to see on board.

If you can do better, come up with suggestions that do not put everbody
down. There is also a responsibilty when writing to a public group. If you
want politics, go to politics. There is enough hate I do not want to see it
here.

I never felt and saw that the LiveCode dev team is not serious and not
trying their very best. Nobody in software development can fully predict
how things will work out. It is an inherent problem due to the complexity
of the subject.

In my company, when I counted estimated development time, I multiplied it
by the factor 4. But who will pay? Only big companies pay serious money for
bug fixing and for each new release. So, I moved main funding to getting
paid for hours spent then. Not so possible here.

I also paid to the LC fundraising campagne and was already satisfied with
the support for Unicode. I never expected that everything would be possible
to fully do for such relatively small amount of money. I never had such
attitude. And nobody else could have done it. The team worked dedicated and
hard. But they also have to live.

Hundreds of millions are lost by companies for that complexity reason in
development. It is easy to break down and very hard to build up.

And in comparison to all those I know as well trying, LC does a fantastic
job for do many years. Thanks to such wonderful team.

To be on the edge of everything, pay dozens of millions monthly! Not even
Adobe or Microsoft can do it and fail often enough.

Be decent!

Roland