generating a standalone in v9.x

Sat Nov 2 11:40:46 EDT 2019

 From: Douglas Ruisaard [mailto:dougr at telus.net]
 Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2019 8:39 AM
 To: 'use-livecode at lists.runrev.com'
 Subject: RE: generating a standalone in v9.x

 Not to beat a dead horse, but I know this group loves details especially when the details reinforce a
 successful resolution of a problem.

 Of course, I'd love it if someone could substantiate and replicate my experience with LC v9 standalone
 build by putting a red-dot debug flag in their "openCard" handler... save the file with "Script Debug
 Mode" checked ... then try to build a standalone.

 You "should" find that the standalone gets to the "Attach engine" stage but never stops and that your
 code is now halted at the debug flag.

 Now here's the INTERESTING part... if, instead of telling the debugger to "continue/run" (e.g. via F5
 or the drop-down menu), you select the "STOP" command (shift-F5 or the drop-down), the standalone
 continues to "spin" and never stops.  If you do this you will have to stop/exit LC completely to make
 LC responsive again.  Generally, I usually *do* STOP the app at the debug line when I am modifying the
 code ... that's why, when this started to happen with V9, I didn't clue into why the standalone was
 NOT finishing.  At some point, instead, I "accidentally" pressed the RUN/CONTINUE icon when the
 "Attach Engine" window was spinning... and, wha-da-ya-know, the standalone finished!

 I fail to see why one of the (likely) final steps of the standalone builder actually "runs" the
 application *before* the standalone actually finishes... rather than just "re-load" it ... as all
 previous versions to v9 apparently did.

 Or, as the actual FINAL step, just *after* the standalone declares "Standalone application saved
 successfully".. THEN re-start the app ... if you must!

 Douglas Ruisaard
 Trilogy Software
 (250) 573-3935

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Douglas Ruisaard [mailto:dougr at telus.net]
> > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2019 6:49 PM
> > To: 'use-livecode at lists.runrev.com'
> > Subject: Re: generating a standalone in v9.x
> >
> > Thanks, JJS.
> >
> > I had that code ion place from Bob's suggestion but ran into the
> > (apparent) never-ending "Attaching Engine" state.  **BUT** just now I
> > discovered, as my eye glanced over at the app's script in the Editor,
> > the standalone build had "re-started" my application and was "stalled" on a "red-dot" debug flag.
> >
> > I ALWAYS put a red-dot/debug flag in the "OpenCard" call so I can
> > control whether I want the app to run or not when it initially loads into LC.
> >
> > Once I clicked on the <F5> (continue) button of the editor, the standalone completed.  REALLY?
> > Whatever!  Now that I know that "feature", I can live with it.. but I
> > bet THAT characteristic *isn't* described in the release note(s).
> >
> > Thanks again for your help!
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 19:20:04 +0100
> > > From: JJS <jjs at krutt.org>
> > > To: Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode
> > > <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> > > Subject: Re: generating a standalone in v9.x
> > > Message-ID: <ccad5904-5c48-2e17-26ab-fed56b9d3686 at krutt.org>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> > >
> > > What you need is described in the release notes from 9.x onwards
> > >
> > > Removing the command quit is not the solution
> > >
> > > use this, it is copied from the release notes:
> > >
> > > on closeStack
> > > if the environment is "development" and \ there is a stack
> > > "revStandaloneProgress" and \ the mode of stack
> > > "revStandaloneProgress" > 0 then exit closeStack end if end
> > > closeStack
> > >
> > > i use it always and always works ok.
> > >
> > >
> > > Op 1-11-2019 om 18:44 schreef Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode:
> > > > Thanks Bob and Heather and also a thanks to Giovanni Cannizzaro.
> > > >
> > > > Giovanni had the minimal fix to just remove a "quit" from any "shutDownRequest".
> > > >
> > > > Heather from LC also offered the following code in a related situation to Giovanni's:
> > > > 	on closeStack
> > > > 		if the mode of stack "revStandaloneProgress" > 0 then
> > > > 			exit closeStack
> > > > 		end if
> > > > 	end closeStack
> > > >
> > > > The simple fix of removing the "quit" actually allowed the
> > > > standalone to generate a working
> > > executable... HOWEVER, now the build stops with a never-ending
> > > "Attaching engine" spinner.  I have to completely exit LC to stop the "unfinished" process.
> > > >
> > > > I have tried inserting BOTH Heather's and Bob's suggestions but
> > > > they do NOT resolve the "Attaching
> > > engine" issue.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > ps... LC business 8.1.10 still generated the standalone PERFECTLY...
> > > > even with the v9 changes in the
> > > script.  Glad I kept it around!!!  NOT lovin' v9x much at all!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Douglas Ruisaard
> > > > Trilogy Software
> > > > (250) 573-3935
> > > >
> > > >> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 22:12:17 +0000
> > > >> From: Bob Sneidar <bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com>
> > > >> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> > > >> Subject: Re: generating a standalone in v9.x
> > > >> Message-ID:
> > > >> <EA740572-5177-4B16-A839-E6218E17F167 at iotecdigital.com>
> > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > > >>
> > > >> There is a set of commands that in certain scripts like opesStack
> > > >> and closeStack that will check to see if the standalone builder
> > > >> is running, and then you can
> > abort the handler.
> > > >>
> > > >> The reason they do this is because your app could be doing
> > > >> anything at the moment the standalone is being built. The
> > > >> standalone has to walk through every script to check what add-ons or libraries you use so it
> can include them.
> > > >>
> > > >> Here's what I do. In the stackScript of the mainStack:
> > > >>
> > > >> on savingStandalone
> > > >>     put true into gBuildingStandAlone end savingStandalone
> > > >>
> > > >> on standaloneSaved
> > > >>     put false into gBuildingStandAlone end standaloneSaved
> > > >>
> > > >> Then in any openStack handler, either in the stack or card, I put this:
> > > >>
> > > >>     put the environment is "development" and \
> > > >>           there is a stack "revStandaloneProgress" and \
> > > >>           the mode of stack "revStandaloneProgress" > 0 into
> > > >> skipLogin
> > > >>
> > > >>     if not skipLogin then
> > > >>     --- code that borks your standalone building. For me it was calling a login dialog as
> modal.
> > > >>     end if
> > > >>
> > > >> Bob S
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Oct 31, 2019, at 14:50 , Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode
> > > >>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I am having an issue with using "any" business version of 9
> > > >>> (9.04, 9.05, 9.5-32bit, 9.5-64bit) to
> > > >> generate a standalone output of my application.  I am using
> > > >> Windows
> > > >> 7 Enterprise SP1 and have tried building the identical script
> > > >> (with the same result) on two different installations of said OS
> > > >> on
> > > two
> > > >> different machines.
> > > >>> LC business v 8.1.10 generates the standalone fine.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> LC business version 9.0.5 (with IDENTICAL settings in the
> > > >>> "Standalone Application Settings" as
> > > used
> > > >> in the v8.1.10 build) seems to crash LC  just at the point of
> > > >> "closing open stacks" at which point
> > > all
> > > >> things LC disappear from my desktop.  An appropriate "destination"
> > > >> directory for the standalone is created as per the settings but it is completely empty.
> > > >>> The actual application runs fine in all LC business versions...
> > > >>> it's just that I can't get the LC
> > > >> v9.x to generated the standalone... and ... I can't find ANY
> > > >> error or log explaining what is
> > > wrong!!
> > > >>> Is there such a log or audit which details the steps that LC is
> > > >>> taking and possibly what the issue
> > > >> is that it cannot resolve?  I have checked at the Administrators
> > > >> tools event logging provided by Windows 7 ... but there is no
> > > >> corresponding event which is
> > simultaneous with the LC "crash".
> > > >>> I follow this user-group quite closely and seem to recall others
> > > >>> having issues with LC v9's
> > > >> standalone processes but I cannot seem to find such references
> > > >> within the very large amount of chat this site contains.  I have
> > > >> NOT checked the LC QC bugs since I really don't know what I'm
> > > >> looking
> > > for
> > > >> other than potential issues with the standalone builder.
> > > >>> I'd very much appreciate any tips, pointers, explanations as to
> > > >>> how to either resolve this issue
> > > or
> > > >> where within my LC environment I can find any logs concerning the standalone processing.
> > > >>> Cheers!
> > > >>> Douglas Ruisaard
> > > >>> Trilogy Software
> > > >>> (250) 573-3935
> >
> > Douglas Ruisaard
> > Trilogy Software
> > (250) 573-3935