Learning from scratch - any recommendations?

Fri Nov 1 18:31:26 EDT 2019

we were very often in the Netherlands for vacation, so i seriously tried to learn Dutch.
But it ended that the Dutch better understood me when i spoke German or English instead of Dutch. ;)

Matthias Rebbe

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> Am 01.11.2019 um 19:28 schrieb JJS via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> quote : I hate to learn another language. That is why I live in the United States. /quote
> 
> If we the Dutch go to Germany we talk German, if we go to France many of us not all talk French, if we go to other countries we talk mainly English.
> 
> If Germans or French come to our country we talk their language or english
> 
> Try to learn Dutch, if we had'nt sold New York to the Brittish you'd all talk Dutch
> 
> And partly thank God it happened or we'd all would listen to Dutch music today and most of it i can't stand :)
> 
> there was another point i wanted to make, but during typing i forgot.
> 
> 
> Back on topic, Java or Kotlin is something i would want to try, but it's more difficult, although everyone says their language is so easy. Livecode is best to step in.
> 
> 
> Op 1-11-2019 om 18:52 schreef dunbarx--- via use-livecode:
>> I am with Richmond, mainly.
>> I hate to learn another language. That is why I live in the United States.
>> LC, if you introduce only a  handful or three of native words, controls and concepts, is accessible to anyone with a real desire to learn this sort of thing. Even a first grader; they just need more mentoring. Even someone who did not know they would like to build stuff in software.
>> The trick is the engagement, to make it seem cool and fun.
>> Craig
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>>
>> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>>
>> Cc: Richmond Mathewson <richmondmathewson at gmail.com <mailto:richmondmathewson at gmail.com>>
>> Sent: Fri, Nov 1, 2019 12:59 pm
>> Subject: Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?
>> 
>> I have a radical disagreement with Scratch and its ilk as, while it does
>> allow one to run up simple computer games, it does not let users see the
>> "guts" of a program, and seems not to give children transferrable skill for
>> non-block programming languages. I have successfully started kids from 9
>> years old and upward on programming with both BBC BASIC and Livecode.
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, 6:00 PM kee nethery via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> My recommendation is to have them start with scratch.mit.edu <http://scratch.mit.edu/> and spend a
>>> month making stuff with that language. Scratch is built for 1st graders to
>>> pick up and it is extremely satisfying as the starter language. They get
>>> exposed to all sorts of concepts, message passing, variables, flow control,
>>> multi-processing, it’s a great starter language. A month making stuff and
>>> then move to livecode.
>>> 
>>> Kee
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 1, 2019, at 3:23 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>>>> I was disappointed that I only got one reply to my query about LC as a
>>> platform for learning programming - I thought this was a big thing with
>>> quite a few people on this list, some of whom are actually educators. Since
>>> I’ve failed in this, can someone suggest a better way of getting an answer
>>> (e.g. forums, mother ship)?
>>>> TIA
>>>> 
>>>> Graham
>>>> 
>>>> I wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have been approached by one of my family to ask what would be the
>>> first steps for someone (a young adult) to enable them to enter the world
>>> of app design and programming. Obviously I need to ask more questions
>>> myself, such as whether this would be to get a job, or simply as an
>>> educational exercise, or maybe to provide a launchpad for a startup idea.
>>> However, even at this stage, of course my thoughts turned to LiveCode.
>>>>> So my question to the community is, how would such a person start off -
>>> assuming they’re intelligent, very familiar with consumer-level technology
>>> such as smart phones, tablets, laptop computers for study etc. and social
>>> media, but probably have never seen or thought about what is involved in
>>> designing, implementing and publishing an app (I would just say “a
>>> program”, but that shows how old I am) on any platform? If it is LC (and
>>> why not?), are the published lessons sufficient? What is the view of those
>>> on this list who do actually teach this stuff?
>>>>> The trouble for me is that I have been around all this for 50 years
>>> (more, to be truthful) and so can’t project myself well into the mind of
>>> that kind of newbie. One guess is that one way to start would be to find a
>>> cheap hardware platform (probably an Android tablet) and try to use the LC
>>> Community Edition to allow me to create something for that; but that idea
>>> may be stupid, particularly as one would need a different platform to
>>> actually do the development work.
>>>>> Hoping for some insights
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham
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