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J. Landman Gay jacque at hyperactivesw.com
Fri Jun 21 19:47:20 EDT 2019


Mark Talluto's bug is exactly what I see. It may be related to a certain 
type of scripting, or a particular sequence of commands. I crashed several 
times in a row within a minute of a restart, so maybe the handler I was 
debugging was to blame.
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Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On June 21, 2019 5:32:26 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
<use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I am using V9.0.5 rc1 and I am not having any of these kinds of debugging 
> crashes. I rarely step over though. Almost always I step into or out of. (I 
> think I have that right.)
>
> Bob S
>
>> On Jun 21, 2019, at 14:33 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 6/21/19 2:48 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote:
>>> On 21/06/2019 19:38, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> My only excuse is that I've been avoiding stepping through the debugger 
>>>> because LC has been crashing when I do that. I've sent in many crash logs 
>>>> but it's only recently I've discovered it happens only with Step Over. It's 
>>>> hard to believe no one else has seen this, which I've been seeing since LC 
>>>> 9 first came out, but that's why I didn't know what was in the variable.
>>> I've been seeing this too. But it's time to confess my abysmal ignorance - 
>>> how do I get a crash log ?
>>
>> On Mac, a huge dialog appears with the crash log in it. I select all, copy, 
>> paste into a text document and save it. On Windows I don't know, but if 
>> there's a system log (like Console displays on Mac) it's probably in there.
>>
>>> (And is it worthwhile me getting some of them to add to the bug reports?)
>>
>> Good question. I've uploaded maybe 20-25 of them so far. I don't always 
>> bother any more.
>>
>>>> Now that I've discovered breakpoints don't crash as long as I don't step 
>>>> through, I was able to see what's going on.
>>
>> I was wrong. Not more than a few minutes ago I crashed after stopping at 
>> multiple breakpoints. It doesn't seem to matter if they're red-dot or 
>> typed. However, it seems to take more repetitions before the crash if you 
>> don't do any stepping.
>>
>>> Hmmm - I find I have no choice but to step through; the editor/debugger so 
>>> often "freezes" (i.e. when I scroll the text, the line numbers don't scroll 
>>> at the same time).
>>
>> I see that all the time. If you step over, the dot location fixes itself at 
>> least here. Until the crash, anyway. It doesn't crash right away, it seems 
>> to be a cumulative thing, so you get a few chances before everything goes down.
>>
>> This has really been crippling my productivity. I'm sure it's a very 
>> elusive thing to track down but I hope they can find it. If no one else has 
>> a problem, it may be something script-related that both you and I are doing.
>>
>>
>>> So I can't just set another breakpoint further down - I have to step over 
>>> for a while until the place at which I want to set the breakpoint scrolls 
>>> itself into view.
>>>>
>>>> If you have experienced crashes during debugging, take a look at 
>>>> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22130 and 
>>>> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21876
>>>>
>>> Alex.
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