From iphonelagi at gmail.com Mon Jul 1 07:12:59 2019 From: iphonelagi at gmail.com (Lagi Pittas) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 12:12:59 +0100 Subject: CTD meaning? In-Reply-To: <0B2413B3-5C22-451A-80C6-4E3A2E478AEB@rogers.com> References: <84e798fa-d2a9-7390-a3ea-fafe9dd1d388@pair.com> <0B2413B3-5C22-451A-80C6-4E3A2E478AEB@rogers.com> Message-ID: You got there first Martin, But you missed out the Spam Spam spam before the Crash ;-) Lagi On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 16:30, Martin Koob via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 28, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Edit Script Save and Crash - it doesn't have as much crash in it as > Crash Script Edit and Crash. > > We do have some Crash, Edit script and Crash; Edit script, Crash, Save > and Crash; Crash, Crash, Crash and Crash. > > ## Vikings descend from the ceiling singing > ## Crash, Crash, Crash, Crash > ## Crash, Crash, Crash, Crash > ## Crash, Crash, Crash, Crashity Crash. > > > Martin > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From iphonelagi at gmail.com Mon Jul 1 07:40:20 2019 From: iphonelagi at gmail.com (Lagi Pittas) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 12:40:20 +0100 Subject: CTD meaning? In-Reply-To: <16b9f1b6870.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> References: <84e798fa-d2a9-7390-a3ea-fafe9dd1d388@pair.com> <0B2413B3-5C22-451A-80C6-4E3A2E478AEB@rogers.com> <5D22569E-1567-4BC9-A391-B5EDD9A1ACAF@rogers.com> <59CD63DB-F034-4754-A4EE-83F5505B5D59@byu.edu> <16b9f1b6870.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: There is one thing any real developer (Man or Woman ...) knows and that's The words to the Spam skit and the words to the lumberj ... 2 things every developer knows The words to the spam skit and the lumberjack song and people's front of Judea ..... ahaaaa ... Nobody expects a "Crash Of Inquisition" even if they do say Jehova, Jehova ...... Stop it! stop it!! this is getting silly .... http://www.montypython.net/scripts/spanish.php http://www.montypython.net/brianmm1.php#Scene%207 http://www.montypython.net/scripts/spamskit.php Lagi On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 18:22, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Too funny. While I'm not so fond of either management or Crash, I'm glad I > started this thread. > > On the whole though, freah crashes are better than canned. > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > On June 28, 2019 11:16:31 AM Devin Asay via use-livecode > wrote: > > >>> On Jun 28, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> On 6/28/19 8:30 AM, Martin Koob via use-livecode wrote: > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>> On Jun 28, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Edit Script Save and Crash - it doesn't have as much crash in it as > Crash > >>>>> Script Edit and Crash. > >>>> We do have some Crash, Edit script and Crash; Edit script, Crash, > Save and > >>>> Crash; Crash, Crash, Crash and Crash. > >>>> ## Vikings descend from the ceiling singing > >>>> ## Crash, Crash, Crash, Crash > >>>> ## Crash, Crash, Crash, Crash > >>>> ## Crash, Crash, Crash, Crashity Crash. > >>> > >>> LOL. > >>> Have you got anything without Crash in it? > >>> > >> > >> IDE: Urgghh! You can?t have Edit script and Save without any crash in > it! > > > > I?ll have your crash. I love it! > > _______________________________________________ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From panos.merakos at livecode.com Mon Jul 1 08:42:26 2019 From: panos.merakos at livecode.com (panagiotis merakos) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 15:42:26 +0300 Subject: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 184 Message-ID: Hi all, Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter! Read issue #184 here: http://bit.ly/2XJP27C This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been going on in and around the open source project. New issues will be released weekly on Mondays. We have a dedicated mailing list that will deliver each issue directly to you e-mail, so you don't miss any! If you have anything you'd like mentioned (a project, a discussion somewhere, an upcoming event) then please get in touch. -- Panagiotis Merakos LiveCode Software Developer Everyone Can Create Apps From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Mon Jul 1 10:44:54 2019 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 14:44:54 +0000 Subject: Group misbehavior in 9.5 In-Reply-To: <53AA69AE-8A5F-4637-97E4-BAB2A2CBA666@gmail.com> References: <53AA69AE-8A5F-4637-97E4-BAB2A2CBA666@gmail.com> Message-ID: I experienced something like this in 9.0.x. Lots of weirdness in cutting/copying/pasting groups inside groups. I resorted to using revNavigator for managing groups. Bob S > On Jun 28, 2019, at 17:19 , doc hawk via use-livecode wrote: > > I can?t come up with a recipe for this one, either . . . > > When using the group editor and cutting a subgroup, it seems not to lose all of its information. I then paste back in, and it frequently becomes part of its prior owner, and sometimes part of another group. > > So if I edit group A, and from group B of A I cut group C, the expected behavior on paste is to become part of group A, but it seems to have an affinity for B. From ambassador at fourthworld.com Mon Jul 1 12:47:05 2019 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 09:47:05 -0700 Subject: Loading large files into browser widget In-Reply-To: <9f3eaab2-68be-43fe-9ca1-c81116000895@hyperactivesw.com> References: <9f3eaab2-68be-43fe-9ca1-c81116000895@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: <8d558fc0-d28f-68af-9914-02035a3c7890@fourthworld.com> Curious: how long does it take to load the document in Chrome on the same device? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ____________________________________________________________________ Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 11:30:42 2019 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:30:42 +0300 Subject: Draw a line that follows an object In-Reply-To: <1561929665537-0.post@n4.nabble.com> References:

<1561564232700-0.post@n4.nabble.com> <358040538.270363.1561753015448@mail.yahoo.com> <1561753884793-0.post@n4.nabble.com> <1561929665537-0.post@n4.nabble.com> Message-ID: Well, well, well . . . . . https://www.dropbox.com/s/x2qmp9hvm43fbk7/NLCT.livecode.zip?dl=0 KIsses, Richmond. On 1.07.19 0:21, dunbarxx via use-livecode wrote: > If you add points to a line graphic, which of course starts off with only two > lines of points (its endpoints) it will take on the attributes of a polygon. > Is that what you did? But either ought to do, no? > > Craig > > > > -- > Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Tue Jul 2 12:03:11 2019 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 16:03:11 +0000 Subject: Draw a line that follows an object In-Reply-To: References:

<1561564232700-0.post@n4.nabble.com> <358040538.270363.1561753015448@mail.yahoo.com> <1561753884793-0.post@n4.nabble.com> <1561929665537-0.post@n4.nabble.com> Message-ID: <358153A2-57B6-4D81-AC96-93319B7FFF46@iotecdigital.com> I can't get it to draw anything. Bob S > On Jul 2, 2019, at 08:30 , Richmond via use-livecode wrote: > > Well, well, well . . . . . > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/x2qmp9hvm43fbk7/NLCT.livecode.zip?dl=0 > > KIsses, Richmond. From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 12:32:21 2019 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 19:32:21 +0300 Subject: Draw a line that follows an object In-Reply-To: <358153A2-57B6-4D81-AC96-93319B7FFF46@iotecdigital.com> References:

<1561564232700-0.post@n4.nabble.com> <358040538.270363.1561753015448@mail.yahoo.com> <1561753884793-0.post@n4.nabble.com> <1561929665537-0.post@n4.nabble.com> <358153A2-57B6-4D81-AC96-93319B7FFF46@iotecdigital.com> Message-ID: <51df1ab9-8289-92bd-f3cb-c3e3002a81c1@gmail.com> I don't know why. Have a bash with this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6wzi8ln6wwgsvlo/Tortoise.livecode.zip?dl=0 On 2.07.19 19:03, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > I can't get it to draw anything. > > Bob S > > >> On Jul 2, 2019, at 08:30 , Richmond via use-livecode wrote: >> >> Well, well, well . . . . . >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x2qmp9hvm43fbk7/NLCT.livecode.zip?dl=0 >> >> KIsses, Richmond. > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From curt at sonasoftware.com Tue Jul 2 16:03:45 2019 From: curt at sonasoftware.com (Curt Ford) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 13:03:45 -0700 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine Message-ID: <5D1BB8A1.4030407@sonasoftware.com> A client has reported that a small utility I've made for him is being blocked by Symantec on his Windows machine. We haven't had this issue before with an earlier version of the same utility, but now he gets this report: "Threat type: Insight Network Threat. There are many indications that this file is untrustworthy and therefore not safe ____________________________ f_003294 Threat name: WS.Reputation.1 Locate Very Few Users Fewer than 5 users in the Symantec Community have used this file. Very New This file was released less than 1 week ago. Medium This file risk is medium." Would code signing it somehow help? Any suggestions? Thanks! Curt -- Sent from Postbox From tom at makeshyft.com Tue Jul 2 16:10:13 2019 From: tom at makeshyft.com (Tom Glod) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 16:10:13 -0400 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine In-Reply-To: <5D1BB8A1.4030407@sonasoftware.com> References: <5D1BB8A1.4030407@sonasoftware.com> Message-ID: Just wondering ..is your executable signed? I've come across this problem before with it being quarantined. avast does the "hold on a second let me check this out first" thing.....but after 15 seconds lets the application start normally..... and it only happens the first time. This is not great for user experience. On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 4:04 PM Curt Ford via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > A client has reported that a small utility I've made for him is being > blocked by Symantec on his Windows machine. We haven't had this issue > before with an earlier version of the same utility, but now he gets this > report: > > "Threat type: Insight Network Threat. There are many indications that > this file is untrustworthy and therefore not safe > ____________________________ > > f_003294 Threat name: WS.Reputation.1 > > Locate > > Very Few Users > > Fewer than 5 users in the Symantec Community have used this file. > > Very New > > This file was released less than 1 week ago. > > Medium > > This file risk is medium." > > Would code signing it somehow help? Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > > Curt > -- > Sent from Postbox > < > https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=siglink&utm_campaign=reach > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From paul at researchware.com Tue Jul 2 16:16:26 2019 From: paul at researchware.com (Paul Dupuis) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 16:16:26 -0400 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine In-Reply-To: References: <5D1BB8A1.4030407@sonasoftware.com> Message-ID: <98d4bd36-418c-75e8-7885-0310dfde6940@researchware.com> Same here. Code signing your application will prevent this. On 7/2/2019 4:10 PM, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote: > Just wondering ..is your executable signed? > > I've come across this problem before with it being quarantined. > > avast does the "hold on a second let me check this out first" > thing.....but after 15 seconds lets the application start normally..... > and it only happens the first time. > > This is not great for user experience. > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 4:04 PM Curt Ford via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> A client has reported that a small utility I've made for him is being >> blocked by Symantec on his Windows machine. We haven't had this issue >> before with an earlier version of the same utility, but now he gets this >> report: >> >> "Threat type: Insight Network Threat. There are many indications that >> this file is untrustworthy and therefore not safe >> ____________________________ >> >> f_003294 Threat name: WS.Reputation.1 >> >> Locate >> >> Very Few Users >> >> Fewer than 5 users in the Symantec Community have used this file. >> >> Very New >> >> This file was released less than 1 week ago. >> >> Medium >> >> This file risk is medium." >> >> Would code signing it somehow help? Any suggestions? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Curt >> -- >> Sent from Postbox >> < >> https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=siglink&utm_campaign=reach >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Tue Jul 2 17:29:40 2019 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 21:29:40 +0000 Subject: XML To Array Message-ID: <4D5DE740-5FA0-4A01-94BB-73B6EEDCA23D@iotecdigital.com> Hi all. I'm revisiting converting XML to Array. Toshiba has an export file for their scan templates in XML format. It's pretty complicated as you can imagine. I was hoping that I could use Trevor's XML to Array functions to get nodes that look something like: JobTemplates GroupList Group1 Template1 Template2 Template3... Group2 Template1 Template2... And so on. What I am *actually* getting is something far more complex than the the XML itself! 1 @Children 1 @Children @Name "GroupList" @Name "JobTemplates And so forth. This latter format is frankly impossible for me to fathom. Does anyone have a "simple" XML to Array (and reverse) function I can use? The idea is for me to build an xml file with scan registrations I append from another source and import them back into the copier. Bob S From curt at sonasoftware.com Tue Jul 2 17:57:09 2019 From: curt at sonasoftware.com (Curt Ford) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 14:57:09 -0700 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine Message-ID: <5D1BD335.7060806@sonasoftware.com> Guess it's time to finally look into this. I just visited https://comodosslstore.com but am not sure of the differences between Comodo code signing, Microsoft Authenticode, etc... Any suggestions on best practices with LiveCode/Inno Setup are appreciated! -- Sent from Postbox From tom at makeshyft.com Tue Jul 2 18:06:18 2019 From: tom at makeshyft.com (Tom Glod) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:06:18 -0400 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine In-Reply-To: <5D1BD335.7060806@sonasoftware.com> References: <5D1BD335.7060806@sonasoftware.com> Message-ID: I always struggle being able to search the mailing list, but someone made a helper app for signing standalones. Speaking of,,,,,I have questions whether you can use the same certificate from comodo to sign all standalones for each platform. or if u need a distinct one for each platform? Sigh.....yet another item on my to do list. On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 5:57 PM Curt Ford via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Guess it's time to finally look into this. > > I just visited https://comodosslstore.com but am not sure of the > differences between Comodo code signing, Microsoft Authenticode, etc... > > Any suggestions on best practices with LiveCode/Inno Setup are appreciated! > > -- > Sent from Postbox > < > https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=siglink&utm_campaign=reach > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From paul at researchware.com Tue Jul 2 18:16:04 2019 From: paul at researchware.com (Paul Dupuis) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:16:04 -0400 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine In-Reply-To: <5D1BD335.7060806@sonasoftware.com> References: <5D1BD335.7060806@sonasoftware.com> Message-ID: <551af6a2-11ab-1ad7-24b0-96cf705df281@researchware.com> On 7/2/2019 5:57 PM, Curt Ford via use-livecode wrote: > Guess it's time to finally look into this. > > I just visited https://comodosslstore.com but am not sure of the > differences between Comodo code signing, Microsoft Authenticode, etc... > > Any suggestions on best practices with LiveCode/Inno Setup are > appreciated! > Trevor Devore has some really good tutorials on code signing. I use a Comodo cert for Windows. If you need to sign an OSX built (or iOS) you need separate certs (one for OSX and 1 for iOS ) from Apple which I think I recall is part of your Apple Developer membership There are some 3rd party tools people have recommended to point & click code signing or use the command line tools from the vendors (Microsoft for Window; Apple for OSX - part of xCode) You build your LC standalone. Sign that. Then package that in an installer and sign the installer (best practice) There s a learning curve, but code signing really is a necessity these days. From matthias_livecode_150811 at m-r-d.de Tue Jul 2 18:19:44 2019 From: matthias_livecode_150811 at m-r-d.de (Matthias Rebbe) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 00:19:44 +0200 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine In-Reply-To: <5D1BD335.7060806@sonasoftware.com> References: <5D1BD335.7060806@sonasoftware.com> Message-ID: I?ve purchased my ComodoOV Code Signing Certificates from KSoftware. It?s much cheaper than buying directly from Comodo. You purchase from KSoftware, but the certificate is delivered by Comodo. https://www.ksoftware.net/code-signing-certificates/ Regards, Matthias > Am 02.07.2019 um 23:57 schrieb Curt Ford via use-livecode : > > Guess it's time to finally look into this. > > I just visited https://comodosslstore.com but am not sure of the differences between Comodo code signing, Microsoft Authenticode, etc... > > Any suggestions on best practices with LiveCode/Inno Setup are appreciated! > > -- > Sent from Postbox > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From matthias_livecode_150811 at m-r-d.de Tue Jul 2 18:24:33 2019 From: matthias_livecode_150811 at m-r-d.de (Matthias Rebbe) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 00:24:33 +0200 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine In-Reply-To: References: <5D1BD335.7060806@sonasoftware.com> Message-ID: One little addition. I just noticed that Comodo is now Sectigo. Seems they?ve changed their name. > Am 03.07.2019 um 00:19 schrieb Matthias Rebbe : > > I?ve purchased my ComodoOV Code Signing Certificates from KSoftware. It?s much cheaper than buying directly from Comodo. You purchase from KSoftware, but the certificate is delivered by Comodo. > https://www.ksoftware.net/code-signing-certificates/ > > Regards, > Matthias > > >> Am 02.07.2019 um 23:57 schrieb Curt Ford via use-livecode : >> >> Guess it's time to finally look into this. >> >> I just visited https://comodosslstore.com but am not sure of the differences between Comodo code signing, Microsoft Authenticode, etc... >> >> Any suggestions on best practices with LiveCode/Inno Setup are appreciated! >> >> -- >> Sent from Postbox >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From ambassador at fourthworld.com Tue Jul 2 18:29:52 2019 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 15:29:52 -0700 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine In-Reply-To: <5D1BB8A1.4030407@sonasoftware.com> References: <5D1BB8A1.4030407@sonasoftware.com> Message-ID: Unless your machine has something viral on it, likely a false positive, a regular occurrence among AV packages. Code signing seems to provide sufficient comfort for many AV packages, though not sure why that's the case given known instances of stolen credentials. While you're doing the many extra steps we'd all love to see in the Standalone Builder but still aren't there, it would be helpful to also drop a note to Symentec so they can appropriately update their latest filters to exclude LC-borne standalones. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ____________________________________________________________________ Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com From ahsoftware at sonic.net Tue Jul 2 19:16:55 2019 From: ahsoftware at sonic.net (Mark Wieder) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 16:16:55 -0700 Subject: XML To Array In-Reply-To: <4D5DE740-5FA0-4A01-94BB-73B6EEDCA23D@iotecdigital.com> References: <4D5DE740-5FA0-4A01-94BB-73B6EEDCA23D@iotecdigital.com> Message-ID: <6b0472a1-a2fd-6cea-74a4-ce258d2d889e@sonic.net> On 7/2/19 2:29 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm revisiting converting XML to Array. Toshiba has an export file for their scan templates in XML format. It's pretty complicated as you can imagine. I was hoping that I could use Trevor's XML to Array functions to get nodes that look something like: > > JobTemplates > GroupList > Group1 > Template1 > Template2 > Template3... > Group2 > Template1 > Template2... What are you hoping to get out of xml-to-array? Given that keys aren't guaranteed to be unique, I think what you're seeing there makes sense. Otherwise you'll stand the chance of losing data in translation. If you don't convert to a numeric form with a concordance, as Trevor has done, I don't see you you could possibly convert this xml to an array: com.plexapp.agents.none com.plexapp.agents.localmedia -- Mark Wieder ahsoftware at gmail.com From terry.judd at unimelb.edu.au Tue Jul 2 21:44:21 2019 From: terry.judd at unimelb.edu.au (Terry Judd) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 01:44:21 +0000 Subject: XML To Array In-Reply-To: <6b0472a1-a2fd-6cea-74a4-ce258d2d889e@sonic.net> References: <4D5DE740-5FA0-4A01-94BB-73B6EEDCA23D@iotecdigital.com> <6b0472a1-a2fd-6cea-74a4-ce258d2d889e@sonic.net> Message-ID: <4AB8E5A9-79FC-435B-81CB-17CF084F15C5@unimelb.edu.au> So admittedly I have modified Trevor's code a bit (mainly so I don't get the @ symbols associated with parameters but also so that instead of ["someNode[1]"] I get ["someNode"][1], but for me that XML snippet creates an array that looks like... ["combine"]["class"] = TV_show ["combine"]["sources"]["agent"][1] = com.plexapp.agents.none ["combine"]["sources"]["agent"][2] = com.plexapp.agents.localmedia ...which seems ok? Terry... ?On 3/7/19, 9:17 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Mark Wieder via use-livecode" wrote: What are you hoping to get out of xml-to-array? Given that keys aren't guaranteed to be unique, I think what you're seeing there makes sense. Otherwise you'll stand the chance of losing data in translation. If you don't convert to a numeric form with a concordance, as Trevor has done, I don't see you you could possibly convert this xml to an array: com.plexapp.agents.none com.plexapp.agents.localmedia -- Mark Wieder ahsoftware at gmail.com _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode at lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From tom at makeshyft.com Wed Jul 3 00:28:07 2019 From: tom at makeshyft.com (Tom Glod) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 00:28:07 -0400 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine In-Reply-To: References: <5D1BB8A1.4030407@sonasoftware.com> Message-ID: https://revolution.screenstepslive.com/s/revolution/m/10695/l/563371-signing-installers-you-create-with-inno-setup Is this the most up to date tutorial? On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 6:30 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Unless your machine has something viral on it, likely a false positive, > a regular occurrence among AV packages. > > Code signing seems to provide sufficient comfort for many AV packages, > though not sure why that's the case given known instances of stolen > credentials. > > While you're doing the many extra steps we'd all love to see in the > Standalone Builder but still aren't there, it would be helpful to also > drop a note to Symentec so they can appropriately update their latest > filters to exclude LC-borne standalones. > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web > ____________________________________________________________________ > Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From tom at makeshyft.com Wed Jul 3 00:29:35 2019 From: tom at makeshyft.com (Tom Glod) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 00:29:35 -0400 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine In-Reply-To: References: <5D1BB8A1.4030407@sonasoftware.com> Message-ID: Sorry wrong link, here is the right one for windows. https://revolution.screenstepslive.com/s/revolution/m/10695/l/563366-purchasing-a-code-signing-certificate-for-windows-from-tucows On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:28 AM Tom Glod wrote: > > https://revolution.screenstepslive.com/s/revolution/m/10695/l/563371-signing-installers-you-create-with-inno-setup > > Is this the most up to date tutorial? > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 6:30 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Unless your machine has something viral on it, likely a false positive, >> a regular occurrence among AV packages. >> >> Code signing seems to provide sufficient comfort for many AV packages, >> though not sure why that's the case given known instances of stolen >> credentials. >> >> While you're doing the many extra steps we'd all love to see in the >> Standalone Builder but still aren't there, it would be helpful to also >> drop a note to Symentec so they can appropriately update their latest >> filters to exclude LC-borne standalones. >> >> -- >> Richard Gaskin >> Fourth World Systems >> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web >> ____________________________________________________________________ >> Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > From iphonelagi at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 06:18:38 2019 From: iphonelagi at gmail.com (Lagi Pittas) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:18:38 +0100 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine In-Reply-To: <5D1BB8A1.4030407@sonasoftware.com> References: <5D1BB8A1.4030407@sonasoftware.com> Message-ID: Easily fixed - remove Symantec - the biggest load of @*&^%$ Malware out there. Blocks reports (well years ago it did) that were loaded as new processes from two of the largest accountants financial systems in uk. slows down processing , tells me how good it's been by blocking 15 trillion attacks in the last 2 days ..... Blocked connection when it felt like it on working accounting systems , I could go on. The best Antivirus is between your ears - but a lot of people don't seem to use that one. I only use Microsoft Security and that is switched off more than on, especially when using LC. I haven't had antivirus on my Macs for years and no problems. A quick trip to virustotal.com is all it needs. YMMV because you don't know what sites users will go on. Lagi On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 at 21:04, Curt Ford via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > A client has reported that a small utility I've made for him is being > blocked by Symantec on his Windows machine. We haven't had this issue > before with an earlier version of the same utility, but now he gets this > report: > > "Threat type: Insight Network Threat. There are many indications that > this file is untrustworthy and therefore not safe > ____________________________ > > f_003294 Threat name: WS.Reputation.1 > > Locate > > Very Few Users > > Fewer than 5 users in the Symantec Community have used this file. > > Very New > > This file was released less than 1 week ago. > > Medium > > This file risk is medium." > > Would code signing it somehow help? Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > > Curt > -- > Sent from Postbox > < > https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=siglink&utm_campaign=reach > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From benr_mc at cogapp.com Wed Jul 3 06:24:08 2019 From: benr_mc at cogapp.com (Ben Rubinstein) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:24:08 +0100 Subject: building to iOS 5.1 Message-ID: <2825fc59-304a-99db-d249-5a5ee1fafac6@cogapp.com> I have an iPad 1 which I could save from the e-wasteheap if I could build a simple app for it. My current install of LiveCode will only build back to iOS 8 (enough to do something useful for my iPad 2!). The splendid https://livecode.com/docs/9-0-4/faq/faq/#what-version-of-livecode-works-with-which-version-of-xcode-ios only goes back to iOS 6.0; but of course at one time it was possible to use LiveCode to build apps for iOS 5. I'm not sure what the limiting factors are: do I need earlier version of LiveCode, of Xcode, of MacOS, or all three? To save me endless miserable experimentation, does anyone know the answer? Is anyone else currently set up to do this? TIA, Ben From dvglasgow at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 06:28:44 2019 From: dvglasgow at gmail.com (David V Glasgow) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:28:44 +0100 Subject: Do variable vs field as AppleScript In-Reply-To: <51df1ab9-8289-92bd-f3cb-c3e3002a81c1@gmail.com> References:

Message-ID: Hi Bob, This is a shame that this not is part of the ODBC implementation in Livecode. Many different languages allow for passing all the dsn information in the connection string. For example, DRIVER={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)};DBQ=C:\path\to\eft.mdb; or Provider=MSDASQL;DRIVER={MySQL ODBC 3.51 Driver};SERVER=10.10.10.1;DATABASE=Example;UID=myusername;PWD=mypassword; Most of the drivers I use are opensource and don't require a fee, but even if they did, I would gladly pay if they gave my clients connectivity (as long as the price is reasonable). Does anyone have a pointer to where in the opensource codebase for livecode, I can find the revopendatabase and associated libraries? I have not had time to download/review the codebase and it would be helpful to get an idea of where the code is and a pointer to any possible documentation for when I start investigating it. best regards Dalton On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 10:53, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Not to my mind as ODBC relies upon an intermediary service to actually > make the connection. I don't use ODBC mainly because I would typically have > to purchase an agent for whatever database engine I am trying to connect > to, and that has typically been a non-starter for any in house projects I > want to use. > > That being said, I believe it is the only way Livecode can communicate > with a Microsoft SQL server, as well as Access, FoxPro, Excel etc. > > Bob S > > > > On Jul 3, 2019, at 07:42 , Dalton Calford via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Is it possible to connect to a database without a predefined DSN using > the > > livecode database connector? > > > > best regards > > > > Dalton > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From dalton.calford at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 11:22:35 2019 From: dalton.calford at gmail.com (Dalton Calford) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:22:35 -0400 Subject: Livecode ODBC connection without DSN? In-Reply-To: <894C239E-7974-4778-932F-8067E74B1E65@m-r-d.de> References: <894C239E-7974-4778-932F-8067E74B1E65@m-r-d.de> Message-ID: Wonderful! Thanks Matthias! I can ensure the ODBC drivers are in, that is not an issue. Most of my testing will be for linux anyways. Best regards Dalton On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 11:09, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Dalton, > > yes it is. You can use SQL Connection strings for it. But in any case > you?ll need to have ODBC drivers installed. > > This here is an old script i used to query the installed Windows ODBC > drivers and do the connection with Connection strings. > It?s old and was registry check was used under Windows 32bit. But the > Connectionstrings still should do with one exception. > > This does not work with new versions of LC on Mac. The latest Mac version > which worked with SQL Connection strings was 6.7.11. > Here?s the bug report from 2016 > https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18151 < > https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18151> > > > And here?s the script > -- connection strings Win/Mac with check which Windows SQL ODBC drivers > are installed > > switch the platform > > case "MacOS" > > get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","Driver={Actual SQL > Server};Server=192.168.1.250;Database=MyDatabaseName;UID=sa;PWD=MyDatabasePassword;",,,) > > break > > case "Win32" > > put listregistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBCINST.INI\") into > tOdbcDrivers > > switch > > case "SQL Server Native Client 11.0" is in tOdbcDrivers > > get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={SQL Server Native Client > 11.0};SERVER=192.168.1.250;DATABASE=MyDatabaseName;UID=sa;PWD=MyDatabasePassword;Trusted_Connection=No",,,) > > break > > case "SQL Server Native Client 10.0" is in tOdbcDrivers > > get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={SQL Server Native Client > 10.0};SERVER=192.168.1.250;DATABASE=MyDatabaseName;UID=sa;PWD=MyDatabasePassword;Trusted_Connection=No",,,) > > break > > case "SQL Server" is in tOdbcDrivers > > get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={SQL > Server};SERVER=192.168.1.250;DATABASE=MyDatabaseName;UID=sa;PWD=MyDatabasePassword;Trusted_Connection=No",,,) > > break > > end switch > > break > > end switch > > Regards, > > Matthias > > > > Matthias Rebbe > > free tools for Livecoders: > https://instamaker.dermattes.de > https://winsignhelper.dermattes.de > > Am 03.07.2019 um 16:42 schrieb Dalton Calford via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >: > > > > Is it possible to connect to a database without a predefined DSN using > the > > livecode database connector? > > > > best regards > > > > Dalton > > _______________________________________________ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From dalton.calford at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 11:28:16 2019 From: dalton.calford at gmail.com (Dalton Calford) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:28:16 -0400 Subject: Elevating User Rights of Livecode on Linux Message-ID: I am looking to read/write odbc settings from within livecode, but due to user rights, I want to allow for sudoer style rights elevation. Is there a way to present the user with a dialog asking for password from within livecode? best regards Dalton From alain.vezina at logilangue.com Wed Jul 3 11:30:04 2019 From: alain.vezina at logilangue.com (Alain Vezina) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:30:04 -0400 Subject: I am no longer an Apple developer Message-ID: Since the first of July, I have managed to get out of Apple's clutches. Since 2008, I have released eight applications for Mac, iPad and iPhone. I worked hard to meet Apple's many requirements, which changed far too often, not to mention the iOS system changes. The last one, 12.x, made all my applications no longer work on an iPad or iPhone. Now I am working hard to ensure that these applications can be used via a browser using HTML5 from LiveCode. Unfortunately, I am delayed by bugs and a lack of clear documentation. For example, I would like to know which folders or files I need to compress with gZip to make the download faster. If some of you are experts in HTML5, I would like to know them; maybe we could form a self-help club... Alain Vezina Logilague Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator From dalton.calford at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 11:38:16 2019 From: dalton.calford at gmail.com (Dalton Calford) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:38:16 -0400 Subject: I am no longer an Apple developer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Alain, I am not a Livecode HTML developer, although I am quite knowledgeable about html 5. I know many different ways to optimize web sites including the use of progressive jpeg, setting up and using a cdn, file compression types/implementations etc. As I don't know how livecode's HTML is generated, I don't know how much use I may be to you. best regards Dalton On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 11:30, Alain Vezina via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Since the first of July, I have managed to get out of Apple's clutches. > Since 2008, I have released eight applications for Mac, iPad and iPhone. I > worked hard to meet Apple's many requirements, which changed far too often, > not to mention the iOS system changes. The last one, 12.x, made all my > applications no longer work on an iPad or iPhone. > > Now I am working hard to ensure that these applications can be used via a > browser using HTML5 from LiveCode. Unfortunately, I am delayed by bugs and > a lack of clear documentation. > > For example, I would like to know which folders or files I need to > compress with gZip to make the download faster. If some of you are experts > in HTML5, I would like to know them; maybe we could form a self-help club... > > Alain Vezina > Logilague > > Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Wed Jul 3 11:41:41 2019 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:41:41 +0000 Subject: Livecode ODBC connection without DSN? In-Reply-To: References: <894C239E-7974-4778-932F-8067E74B1E65@m-r-d.de> Message-ID: <57885101-7F4F-436A-9F10-601572B4E91B@iotecdigital.com> Maybe a little more useful as a complete function: function dbConnectODBCByString pServer, pDatabase, pUser, pPasswd switch the platform case "MacOS" get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","Driver={Actual SQLServer};Server=" & pServer & ";Database=pDataBase;UID=" & pUser & ";PWD= & pPasswd & ";",,,) break case "Win32" put listregistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBCINST.INI\") into tOdbcDrivers switch case "SQL Server Native Client 11.0" is in tOdbcDrivers get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={SQL Server Native Client11.0};SERVER=" & pServer & ";DATABASE=pDataBase;UID=" & pUser & ";PWD=" & pPasswd & ";Trusted_Connection=No",,,) break case "SQL Server Native Client 10.0" is in tOdbcDrivers get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={SQL Server Native Client10.0};SERVER=" & pServer & ";DATABASE=pDataBase;UID=" & pUser & ";PWD=" & pPasswd & ";Trusted_Connection=No",,,) break case "SQL Server" is in tOdbcDrivers get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={SQLServer};SERVER=" & pServer & ";DATABASE=pDataBase;UID=" & pUser & ";PWD=" & pPasswd & ";Trusted_Connection=No",,,) break end switch break end switch return it end dbConnectODBCByString Bob S > On Jul 3, 2019, at 08:22 , Dalton Calford via use-livecode wrote: > > Wonderful! Thanks Matthias! > > I can ensure the ODBC drivers are in, that is not an issue. Most of my > testing will be for linux anyways. > > Best regards > > Dalton > > > On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 11:09, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Hi Dalton, >> >> yes it is. You can use SQL Connection strings for it. But in any case >> you?ll need to have ODBC drivers installed. >> >> This here is an old script i used to query the installed Windows ODBC >> drivers and do the connection with Connection strings. >> It?s old and was registry check was used under Windows 32bit. But the >> Connectionstrings still should do with one exception. >> >> This does not work with new versions of LC on Mac. The latest Mac version >> which worked with SQL Connection strings was 6.7.11. >> Here?s the bug report from 2016 >> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18151 < >> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18151> >> >> >> And here?s the script >> -- connection strings Win/Mac with check which Windows SQL ODBC drivers >> are installed >> >> switch the platform >> >> case "MacOS" >> >> get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","Driver={Actual SQL >> Server};Server=192.168.1.250;Database=MyDatabaseName;UID=sa;PWD=MyDatabasePassword;",,,) >> >> break >> >> case "Win32" >> >> put listregistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBCINST.INI\") into >> tOdbcDrivers >> >> switch >> >> case "SQL Server Native Client 11.0" is in tOdbcDrivers >> >> get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={SQL Server Native Client >> 11.0};SERVER=192.168.1.250;DATABASE=MyDatabaseName;UID=sa;PWD=MyDatabasePassword;Trusted_Connection=No",,,) >> >> break >> >> case "SQL Server Native Client 10.0" is in tOdbcDrivers >> >> get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={SQL Server Native Client >> 10.0};SERVER=192.168.1.250;DATABASE=MyDatabaseName;UID=sa;PWD=MyDatabasePassword;Trusted_Connection=No",,,) >> >> break >> >> case "SQL Server" is in tOdbcDrivers >> >> get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={SQL >> Server};SERVER=192.168.1.250;DATABASE=MyDatabaseName;UID=sa;PWD=MyDatabasePassword;Trusted_Connection=No",,,) >> >> break >> >> end switch >> >> break >> >> end switch >> >> Regards, >> >> Matthias >> >> >> >> Matthias Rebbe >> >> free tools for Livecoders: >> https://instamaker.dermattes.de >> https://winsignhelper.dermattes.de >>> Am 03.07.2019 um 16:42 schrieb Dalton Calford via use-livecode < >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >: >>> >>> Is it possible to connect to a database without a predefined DSN using >> the >>> livecode database connector? >>> >>> best regards >>> >>> Dalton >>> _______________________________________________ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From ambassador at fourthworld.com Wed Jul 3 11:45:05 2019 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 08:45:05 -0700 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine In-Reply-To: <746131E8-D6D1-4942-A18B-3405EC4A1EB5@iotecdigital.com> References: <746131E8-D6D1-4942-A18B-3405EC4A1EB5@iotecdigital.com> Message-ID: <7eb5d235-1b9c-2469-b458-b7861ec6d32b@fourthworld.com> Bob Sneidar wrote: > That being said, no one solution is a catch all. We use Kaspersky... Russians have a very good reputation for technical achievement, but large Russian companies exist in an environment that often requires compromising their business objectives to serve the goals of the Kremlin. Kaspersky Lab Antivirus Software Is Ordered Off U.S. Government Computers https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/us/politics/kaspersky-lab-antivirus-federal-government.html FBI pushes private sector to cut ties with Kaspersky https://www.cyberscoop.com/fbi-kaspersky-private-sector-briefings-yarovaya-laws/ In this new era of information warfare, extreme caution is advised. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ____________________________________________________________________ Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com From jjs at krutt.org Wed Jul 3 11:47:39 2019 From: jjs at krutt.org (JJS) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 17:47:39 +0200 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine In-Reply-To: <7eb5d235-1b9c-2469-b458-b7861ec6d32b@fourthworld.com> References: <746131E8-D6D1-4942-A18B-3405EC4A1EB5@iotecdigital.com> <7eb5d235-1b9c-2469-b458-b7861ec6d32b@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <6a6e3453-1aa2-91c2-ec0c-ef1a3e90f67e@krutt.org> Kaspersky has moved their headquarters to Switserland for that reason, as they claim to have nothing to do with the Kremlin. As far as i have read somewhere a time ago. Op 3-7-2019 om 17:45 schreef Richard Gaskin via use-livecode: > Bob Sneidar wrote: > > > That being said, no one solution is a catch all. We use Kaspersky... > > Russians have a very good reputation for technical achievement, but > large Russian companies exist in an environment that often requires > compromising their business objectives to serve the goals of the Kremlin. > > > Kaspersky Lab Antivirus Software Is Ordered Off U.S. Government Computers > https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/us/politics/kaspersky-lab-antivirus-federal-government.html > > > > FBI pushes private sector to cut ties with Kaspersky > https://www.cyberscoop.com/fbi-kaspersky-private-sector-briefings-yarovaya-laws/ > > > > In this new era of information warfare, extreme caution is advised. > From dalton.calford at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 11:54:17 2019 From: dalton.calford at gmail.com (Dalton Calford) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:54:17 -0400 Subject: Livecode ODBC connection without DSN? In-Reply-To: <57885101-7F4F-436A-9F10-601572B4E91B@iotecdigital.com> References: <894C239E-7974-4778-932F-8067E74B1E65@m-r-d.de> <57885101-7F4F-436A-9F10-601572B4E91B@iotecdigital.com> Message-ID: Thanks Bob, very helpful. On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 11:42, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Maybe a little more useful as a complete function: > > function dbConnectODBCByString pServer, pDatabase, pUser, pPasswd > switch the platform > case "MacOS" > get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","Driver={Actual SQLServer};Server=" & > pServer & ";Database=pDataBase;UID=" & pUser & ";PWD= & pPasswd & ";",,,) > break > case "Win32" > put > listregistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBCINST.INI\") into > tOdbcDrivers > switch > case "SQL Server Native Client 11.0" is in tOdbcDrivers > get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={SQL Server Native > Client11.0};SERVER=" & pServer & ";DATABASE=pDataBase;UID=" & pUser & > ";PWD=" & pPasswd & ";Trusted_Connection=No",,,) > break > case "SQL Server Native Client 10.0" is in tOdbcDrivers > get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={SQL Server Native > Client10.0};SERVER=" & pServer & ";DATABASE=pDataBase;UID=" & pUser & > ";PWD=" & pPasswd & ";Trusted_Connection=No",,,) > break > case "SQL Server" is in tOdbcDrivers > get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={SQLServer};SERVER=" & > pServer & ";DATABASE=pDataBase;UID=" & pUser & ";PWD=" & pPasswd & > ";Trusted_Connection=No",,,) > break > end switch > break > end switch > return it > end dbConnectODBCByString > > Bob S > > > > On Jul 3, 2019, at 08:22 , Dalton Calford via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Wonderful! Thanks Matthias! > > > > I can ensure the ODBC drivers are in, that is not an issue. Most of my > > testing will be for linux anyways. > > > > Best regards > > > > Dalton > > > > > > On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 11:09, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode < > > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi Dalton, > >> > >> yes it is. You can use SQL Connection strings for it. But in any case > >> you?ll need to have ODBC drivers installed. > >> > >> This here is an old script i used to query the installed Windows ODBC > >> drivers and do the connection with Connection strings. > >> It?s old and was registry check was used under Windows 32bit. But the > >> Connectionstrings still should do with one exception. > >> > >> This does not work with new versions of LC on Mac. The latest Mac > version > >> which worked with SQL Connection strings was 6.7.11. > >> Here?s the bug report from 2016 > >> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18151 < > >> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18151> > >> > >> > >> And here?s the script > >> -- connection strings Win/Mac with check which Windows SQL ODBC drivers > >> are installed > >> > >> switch the platform > >> > >> case "MacOS" > >> > >> get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","Driver={Actual SQL > >> > Server};Server=192.168.1.250;Database=MyDatabaseName;UID=sa;PWD=MyDatabasePassword;",,,) > >> > >> break > >> > >> case "Win32" > >> > >> put listregistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBCINST.INI\") into > >> tOdbcDrivers > >> > >> switch > >> > >> case "SQL Server Native Client 11.0" is in tOdbcDrivers > >> > >> get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={SQL Server Native Client > >> > 11.0};SERVER=192.168.1.250;DATABASE=MyDatabaseName;UID=sa;PWD=MyDatabasePassword;Trusted_Connection=No",,,) > >> > >> break > >> > >> case "SQL Server Native Client 10.0" is in tOdbcDrivers > >> > >> get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={SQL Server Native Client > >> > 10.0};SERVER=192.168.1.250;DATABASE=MyDatabaseName;UID=sa;PWD=MyDatabasePassword;Trusted_Connection=No",,,) > >> > >> break > >> > >> case "SQL Server" is in tOdbcDrivers > >> > >> get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={SQL > >> > Server};SERVER=192.168.1.250;DATABASE=MyDatabaseName;UID=sa;PWD=MyDatabasePassword;Trusted_Connection=No",,,) > >> > >> break > >> > >> end switch > >> > >> break > >> > >> end switch > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Matthias > >> > >> > >> > >> Matthias Rebbe > >> > >> free tools for Livecoders: > >> https://instamaker.dermattes.de > >> https://winsignhelper.dermattes.de > > >>> Am 03.07.2019 um 16:42 schrieb Dalton Calford via use-livecode < > >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >: > >>> > >>> Is it possible to connect to a database without a predefined DSN using > >> the > >>> livecode database connector? > >>> > >>> best regards > >>> > >>> Dalton > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> use-livecode mailing list > >>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> subscription preferences: > >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > _______________________________________________ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From ambassador at fourthworld.com Wed Jul 3 11:58:11 2019 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 08:58:11 -0700 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine In-Reply-To: <6a6e3453-1aa2-91c2-ec0c-ef1a3e90f67e@krutt.org> References: <6a6e3453-1aa2-91c2-ec0c-ef1a3e90f67e@krutt.org> Message-ID: <846d5da7-494e-7786-5d06-2ddbfbdc24fa@fourthworld.com> It's possible that the long history between Kaspersky principals and GRU officials ended when they opened an office in a different country. I recognize such issues are complex, and no intelligence, even corroborated by multiple allies, is perfect. For myself, I do what I can to say on top of threat assessment, and choose my vendors with care. When I'm giving root access to my systems, many of which are entry points to public-facing systems for clients, I avoid even potential risks where I have the opportunity to do so. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems JJS wrote: > Kaspersky has moved their headquarters to Switserland for that reason, > as they claim to have nothing to do with the Kremlin. > > As far as i have read somewhere a time ago. > > Op 3-7-2019 om 17:45 schreef Richard Gaskin via use-livecode: >> Bob Sneidar wrote: >> >> > That being said, no one solution is a catch all. We use >> > Kaspersky... >> >> Russians have a very good reputation for technical achievement, but >> large Russian companies exist in an environment that often requires >> compromising their business objectives to serve the goals of the >> Kremlin. >> >> >> Kaspersky Lab Antivirus Software Is Ordered Off U.S. Government >> Computers >> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/us/politics/kaspersky-lab-antivirus-federal-government.html >> >> >> >> FBI pushes private sector to cut ties with Kaspersky >> https://www.cyberscoop.com/fbi-kaspersky-private-sector-briefings-yarovaya-laws/ >> >> >> >> In this new era of information warfare, extreme caution is advised. >> From ahsoftware at sonic.net Wed Jul 3 12:23:08 2019 From: ahsoftware at sonic.net (Mark Wieder) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 09:23:08 -0700 Subject: XML To Array In-Reply-To: <4AB8E5A9-79FC-435B-81CB-17CF084F15C5@unimelb.edu.au> References: <4D5DE740-5FA0-4A01-94BB-73B6EEDCA23D@iotecdigital.com> <6b0472a1-a2fd-6cea-74a4-ce258d2d889e@sonic.net> <4AB8E5A9-79FC-435B-81CB-17CF084F15C5@unimelb.edu.au> Message-ID: <09d53346-8d7f-4f21-ce5f-984b5314112f@sonic.net> On 7/2/19 6:44 PM, Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote: > So admittedly I have modified Trevor's code a bit (mainly so I don't get the @ symbols associated with parameters but also so that instead of ["someNode[1]"] I get ["someNode"][1], but for me that XML snippet creates an array that looks like... > > ["combine"]["class"] = TV_show > ["combine"]["sources"]["agent"][1] = com.plexapp.agents.none > ["combine"]["sources"]["agent"][2] = com.plexapp.agents.localmedia > > ...which seems ok? Yup - that seems fine as well. Or even better, IMO. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftware at gmail.com From ahsoftware at sonic.net Wed Jul 3 12:28:09 2019 From: ahsoftware at sonic.net (Mark Wieder) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 09:28:09 -0700 Subject: XML To Array In-Reply-To: References: <4D5DE740-5FA0-4A01-94BB-73B6EEDCA23D@iotecdigital.com> <6b0472a1-a2fd-6cea-74a4-ce258d2d889e@sonic.net> Message-ID: On 7/3/19 7:44 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > Oh good point. Didn't think about duplicates. Obviously I don't really understand xml too well. I've been thinking of it as a text representation of a database where unique keys would be maintained somehow. Well, it's not guaranteed that there will be duplicates, but I think if you need to examine each line of the raw xml before converting then you're better off either doing the conversion by hand or leaving the data as xml. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftware at gmail.com From ahsoftware at sonic.net Wed Jul 3 12:41:11 2019 From: ahsoftware at sonic.net (Mark Wieder) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 09:41:11 -0700 Subject: Elevating User Rights of Livecode on Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <860a3470-255b-7246-82d8-62baf3256106@sonic.net> On 7/3/19 8:28 AM, Dalton Calford via use-livecode wrote: > I am looking to read/write odbc settings from within livecode, but due to > user rights, I want to allow for sudoer style rights elevation. > > Is there a way to present the user with a dialog asking for password from > within livecode? sudo -S is your friend. Try something like this: on mouseUp pMouseButton local tCommands local tPassword put "apt update" into tCommands ask password "type your sudo password" put it into tPassword get shell("echo" && tPassword && "| sudo -S" && tCommands) put it into field 1 end mouseUp -- Mark Wieder ahsoftware at gmail.com From dalton.calford at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 12:50:09 2019 From: dalton.calford at gmail.com (Dalton Calford) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 12:50:09 -0400 Subject: Elevating User Rights of Livecode on Linux In-Reply-To: <860a3470-255b-7246-82d8-62baf3256106@sonic.net> References: <860a3470-255b-7246-82d8-62baf3256106@sonic.net> Message-ID: Thanks Mark, I was playing with shell() to see if it would work. I am having some path/string issues and can't find a simple example script to show me what I am doing wrong. If I am just using the message box, I can type "put shell(vdir)" and it works perfectly for the default path. If instead I ask "put shell(vdir /etc)" or "put shell('vdir /etc') etc into the message box, all I get is an error. Is the / a special character that needs to be escaped or something else? best regards Dalton On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 12:41, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 7/3/19 8:28 AM, Dalton Calford via use-livecode wrote: > > I am looking to read/write odbc settings from within livecode, but due to > > user rights, I want to allow for sudoer style rights elevation. > > > > Is there a way to present the user with a dialog asking for password from > > within livecode? > > sudo -S is your friend. Try something like this: > > on mouseUp pMouseButton > local tCommands > local tPassword > > put "apt update" into tCommands > ask password "type your sudo password" > put it into tPassword > get shell("echo" && tPassword && "| sudo -S" && tCommands) > put it into field 1 > end mouseUp > > -- > Mark Wieder > ahsoftware at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From dalton.calford at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 12:59:47 2019 From: dalton.calford at gmail.com (Dalton Calford) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 12:59:47 -0400 Subject: Elevating User Rights of Livecode on Linux In-Reply-To: References: <860a3470-255b-7246-82d8-62baf3256106@sonic.net> Message-ID: nevermind about the /. Just discovering '' vs "" usage. Still learning livecode and the cheat sheets are not as robust as I would prefer. On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 12:50, Dalton Calford wrote: > Thanks Mark, > > I was playing with shell() to see if it would work. I am having some > path/string issues and can't find a simple example script to show me what I > am doing wrong. > > If I am just using the message box, I can type "put shell(vdir)" and it > works perfectly for the default path. If instead I ask "put shell(vdir > /etc)" or "put shell('vdir /etc') etc into the message box, all I get is an > error. Is the / a special character that needs to be escaped or > something else? > > best regards > > Dalton > > On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 12:41, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> On 7/3/19 8:28 AM, Dalton Calford via use-livecode wrote: >> > I am looking to read/write odbc settings from within livecode, but due >> to >> > user rights, I want to allow for sudoer style rights elevation. >> > >> > Is there a way to present the user with a dialog asking for password >> from >> > within livecode? >> >> sudo -S is your friend. Try something like this: >> >> on mouseUp pMouseButton >> local tCommands >> local tPassword >> >> put "apt update" into tCommands >> ask password "type your sudo password" >> put it into tPassword >> get shell("echo" && tPassword && "| sudo -S" && tCommands) >> put it into field 1 >> end mouseUp >> >> -- >> Mark Wieder >> ahsoftware at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > From dochawk at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 19:19:12 2019 From: dochawk at gmail.com (Dr. Hawkins) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 16:19:12 -0700 Subject: PDF Widget In-Reply-To: <4767D7F4-6BE8-4FDA-80F6-2B7DFAA862E1@appisle.net> References: <2B37C808-F770-41E8-A7C9-90EEE90982D7@gmail.com> <4767D7F4-6BE8-4FDA-80F6-2B7DFAA862E1@appisle.net> Message-ID: <80BDB385-E007-40EF-BF92-5AEA612ADB3B@gmail.com> On Jun 24, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: > > In order to resolve the report we need to add a way for a widget to draw something different into a printing context than it does normally. I?ve just uploaded some files with the core of a solution. Having never gone inside a pdf before today, i converted some a pair of simple postscript files and converted to pdf, a 3/4 circle to play the role of the raw source pdf, and a box to play the role of whatever other control. I then edit the circle?s file as overlay.1.pdf ( the entire resultant file is in plaintext), defined a clipping path that doesn?t include all of it (representing the region of pdf actually displayed by the widget), and then added in the stream of the box. The trick here is to, rather than drawing the widget, just pass the raw source of the donor pdf into the new one; no need to render at *any* resolution. Printing to pdf already deviates from the printer by passing the text to print rather than a rendering of it; this is just the way to pass the pdf. (OK, I haven?t tried regular printing since 5.0; maybe something changed). ? Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. The Hawkins Law Firm 3430 E. Flamingo Rd. Suite 232 Las Vegas, NV 89121 (702) 508-8462 From ahsoftware at sonic.net Wed Jul 3 21:10:42 2019 From: ahsoftware at sonic.net (Mark Wieder) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 18:10:42 -0700 Subject: Some UX fun Message-ID: <91ab9d75-82f8-9204-4094-c2568a09578f@sonic.net> I got through this, but it took me ten minutes. Anyone else game to play? https://userinyerface.com/ -- Mark Wieder ahsoftware at gmail.com From colinholgate at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 21:35:10 2019 From: colinholgate at gmail.com (Colin Holgate) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 19:35:10 -0600 Subject: Some UX fun In-Reply-To: <91ab9d75-82f8-9204-4094-c2568a09578f@sonic.net> References: <91ab9d75-82f8-9204-4094-c2568a09578f@sonic.net> Message-ID: I didn?t get to the point where it was fun. > On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: > > I got through this, but it took me ten minutes. > Anyone else game to play? > > https://userinyerface.com/ > From MikeKerner at roadrunner.com Wed Jul 3 21:36:43 2019 From: MikeKerner at roadrunner.com (Mike Kerner) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 21:36:43 -0400 Subject: Symantec quarantining LiveCode standalone on client's machine In-Reply-To: <846d5da7-494e-7786-5d06-2ddbfbdc24fa@fourthworld.com> References: <6a6e3453-1aa2-91c2-ec0c-ef1a3e90f67e@krutt.org> <846d5da7-494e-7786-5d06-2ddbfbdc24fa@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: We had the same problem with our Norton installs having issues with our LC-built apps, even when installing an update to the same app. We never were able to fix it, even with code signing. We still had to go into Norton, find the quarrantine, and whitelist the app. Switching AV was our solution, but I get that you can't tell your customers to do that. On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:58 AM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > It's possible that the long history between Kaspersky principals and GRU > officials ended when they opened an office in a different country. > > I recognize such issues are complex, and no intelligence, even > corroborated by multiple allies, is perfect. > > For myself, I do what I can to say on top of threat assessment, and > choose my vendors with care. > > When I'm giving root access to my systems, many of which are entry > points to public-facing systems for clients, I avoid even potential > risks where I have the opportunity to do so. > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > > > JJS wrote: > > > Kaspersky has moved their headquarters to Switserland for that reason, > > as they claim to have nothing to do with the Kremlin. > > > > As far as i have read somewhere a time ago. > > > > Op 3-7-2019 om 17:45 schreef Richard Gaskin via use-livecode: > >> Bob Sneidar wrote: > >> > >> > That being said, no one solution is a catch all. We use > >> > Kaspersky... > >> > >> Russians have a very good reputation for technical achievement, but > >> large Russian companies exist in an environment that often requires > >> compromising their business objectives to serve the goals of the > >> Kremlin. > >> > >> > >> Kaspersky Lab Antivirus Software Is Ordered Off U.S. Government > >> Computers > >> > > https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/us/politics/kaspersky-lab-antivirus-federal-government.html > > >> > >> > >> > >> FBI pushes private sector to cut ties with Kaspersky > >> > > https://www.cyberscoop.com/fbi-kaspersky-private-sector-briefings-yarovaya-laws/ > > >> > >> > >> > >> In this new era of information warfare, extreme caution is advised. > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." From dsc at swcp.com Wed Jul 3 22:34:31 2019 From: dsc at swcp.com (Dar Scott Consulting) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 20:34:31 -0600 Subject: Some UX fun In-Reply-To: <91ab9d75-82f8-9204-4094-c2568a09578f@sonic.net> References: <91ab9d75-82f8-9204-4094-c2568a09578f@sonic.net> Message-ID: <45270510-7B94-4CD1-A1E4-73B02BB74026@swcp.com> It is like one of those movies where one has a nightmare, but wakes up and repents, vowing to never write a bad user interface again, donating time to build beautiful GUIs for little apps whose GUIs were disfigured by the actions of roving gangs of depressed designers. > On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: > > I got through this, but it took me ten minutes. > Anyone else game to play? > > https://userinyerface.com/ > > -- > Mark Wieder > ahsoftware at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Wed Jul 3 22:50:08 2019 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 21:50:08 -0500 Subject: Some UX fun In-Reply-To: <91ab9d75-82f8-9204-4094-c2568a09578f@sonic.net> References: <91ab9d75-82f8-9204-4094-c2568a09578f@sonic.net> Message-ID: <16bbae39f00.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> Couldn't do it. What do you get if you finish? I'm with Dar, only the nightmare is real. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On July 3, 2019 8:12:24 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: > I got through this, but it took me ten minutes. > Anyone else game to play? > > https://userinyerface.com/ > > -- > Mark Wieder > ahsoftware at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From ahsoftware at sonic.net Wed Jul 3 22:57:58 2019 From: ahsoftware at sonic.net (Mark Wieder) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 19:57:58 -0700 Subject: Some UX fun In-Reply-To: <45270510-7B94-4CD1-A1E4-73B02BB74026@swcp.com> References: <91ab9d75-82f8-9204-4094-c2568a09578f@sonic.net> <45270510-7B94-4CD1-A1E4-73B02BB74026@swcp.com> Message-ID: <1ddd1e24-db12-2b94-01a9-7b78f55f1731@sonic.net> On 7/3/19 7:34 PM, Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode wrote: > It is like one of those movies where one has a nightmare, but wakes up and repents, vowing to never write a bad user interface again, donating time to build beautiful GUIs for little apps whose GUIs were disfigured by the actions of roving gangs of depressed designers. Eggzackly. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftware at gmail.com From tom at makeshyft.com Wed Jul 3 23:05:49 2019 From: tom at makeshyft.com (Tom Glod) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 23:05:49 -0400 Subject: Some UX fun In-Reply-To: <1ddd1e24-db12-2b94-01a9-7b78f55f1731@sonic.net> References: <91ab9d75-82f8-9204-4094-c2568a09578f@sonic.net> <45270510-7B94-4CD1-A1E4-73B02BB74026@swcp.com> <1ddd1e24-db12-2b94-01a9-7b78f55f1731@sonic.net> Message-ID: what did i just see? On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:58 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 7/3/19 7:34 PM, Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode wrote: > > It is like one of those movies where one has a nightmare, but wakes up > and repents, vowing to never write a bad user interface again, donating > time to build beautiful GUIs for little apps whose GUIs were disfigured by > the actions of roving gangs of depressed designers. > > Eggzackly. > > -- > Mark Wieder > ahsoftware at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From ahsoftware at sonic.net Wed Jul 3 23:09:50 2019 From: ahsoftware at sonic.net (Mark Wieder) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 20:09:50 -0700 Subject: Some UX fun In-Reply-To: <16bbae39f00.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> References: <91ab9d75-82f8-9204-4094-c2568a09578f@sonic.net> <16bbae39f00.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: <012a6851-a67d-aa3c-b763-46d1a35f65f9@sonic.net> On 7/3/19 7:50 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: > Couldn't do it. What do you get if you finish? > > I'm with Dar, only the nightmare is real. Nothing much. Here's a screenshot. https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/boingboing/original/4X/5/f/b/5fb33e4af4dcf73f315794f6bb4bc845244be81e.png But it does remind me of this article: https://lifehacker.com/reddits-terrible-volume-controls-teach-good-design-1796278889 -- Mark Wieder ahsoftware at gmail.com From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 04:26:34 2019 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 11:26:34 +0300 Subject: Rename object Message-ID: <5895c669-ba8b-56b8-09ca-9e3245eaf399@gmail.com> I've lost this . . . having done it several times before . . . So: I duplicate an object, let's call it img "XXX", so I end up with 2 objects called "XXX" (which is problematic), and I wish to rename the new version of "XXX" . . . err . . . set the name of the last/recent/latest/headache Richmond. From klaus at major-k.de Thu Jul 4 04:30:43 2019 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 10:30:43 +0200 Subject: Rename object In-Reply-To: <5895c669-ba8b-56b8-09ca-9e3245eaf399@gmail.com> References: <5895c669-ba8b-56b8-09ca-9e3245eaf399@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Richmond, > Am 04.07.2019 um 10:26 schrieb Richmond via use-livecode : > > I've lost this . . . having done it several times before . . . > > So: I duplicate an object, let's call it img "XXX", so I end up with > 2 objects called "XXX" (which is problematic), and I wish to > rename the new version of "XXX" . . . > err . . . > set the name of the last/recent/latest/headache ... set the name of last img to "XXX_2" ... > Richmond. Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From sean at pidigital.co.uk Thu Jul 4 05:20:09 2019 From: sean at pidigital.co.uk (Sean Cole (Pi)) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 10:20:09 +0100 Subject: Rename object In-Reply-To: References: <5895c669-ba8b-56b8-09ca-9e3245eaf399@gmail.com> Message-ID: local tList repeat with rImgNum = 1 to the number of images [in card "x"] if the short name of img rImgNum is among the lines of tList then set the name of img rImgNum to the name of tImg rImgNum & "x" end if put the short name of img rImgNum into line rImgNum of tList end repeat -- Done! Sean Cole *Pi Digital Productions Ltd* 'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is no box!' 'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look outside of, but it is yourself!' On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 at 09:30, Klaus major-k via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Richmond, > > > Am 04.07.2019 um 10:26 schrieb Richmond via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>: > > > > I've lost this . . . having done it several times before . . . > > > > So: I duplicate an object, let's call it img "XXX", so I end up with > > 2 objects called "XXX" (which is problematic), and I wish to > > rename the new version of "XXX" . . . > > err . . . > > set the name of the last/recent/latest/headache > > ... > set the name of last img to "XXX_2" > ... > > > Richmond. > > Best > > Klaus > > -- > Klaus Major > https://www.major-k.de > klaus at major-k.de > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From klaus at major-k.de Thu Jul 4 06:03:16 2019 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 12:03:16 +0200 Subject: name vs short name Message-ID: <7A6F8228-2EBC-48E2-B931-ECEB1E4CD045@major-k.de> Hi friends, this is on my mind for a very long time. put the name of img 1 -> image "xyz" put the short name of img 1 -> xyz However: set the short name of img 1 to "xyz2" -> compilation error, see below... We have to: set the name of img 1 to "xyz2" This does not seem logical at all to me!? Can someone please explain in a comprehensible (sic!) way why this is so? :-) BTW: Looks like the dictionary is wrong here (or am I missing something obvious?) Entry about name: ... set the [{ long | abbreviated | short }] name of object to string ... ? I tried: set the long name of btn 1 to "hello sailor!" set the abbreviated name of btn 1 to "hello sailor!" set the short name of btn 1 to "hello sailor!" And got "Compilation error: can't set this property..." in all three cases. Thanks a lot in advance! Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 08:02:01 2019 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 15:02:01 +0300 Subject: Rename object In-Reply-To: References: <5895c669-ba8b-56b8-09ca-9e3245eaf399@gmail.com> Message-ID: <16aa8b0b-006f-5933-cffc-ee0af2d8aa84@gmail.com> Thank you, Klaus, makes me feel even more stupid than I was feeling already. ;-) Richmond. On 4.07.19 11:30, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > Hi Richmond, > >> Am 04.07.2019 um 10:26 schrieb Richmond via use-livecode : >> >> I've lost this . . . having done it several times before . . . >> >> So: I duplicate an object, let's call it img "XXX", so I end up with >> 2 objects called "XXX" (which is problematic), and I wish to >> rename the new version of "XXX" . . . >> err . . . >> set the name of the last/recent/latest/headache > ... > set the name of last img to "XXX_2" > ... > >> Richmond. > Best > > Klaus > > -- > Klaus Major > https://www.major-k.de > klaus at major-k.de > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From klaus at major-k.de Thu Jul 4 08:04:10 2019 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 14:04:10 +0200 Subject: Rename object In-Reply-To: <16aa8b0b-006f-5933-cffc-ee0af2d8aa84@gmail.com> References: <5895c669-ba8b-56b8-09ca-9e3245eaf399@gmail.com> <16aa8b0b-006f-5933-cffc-ee0af2d8aa84@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DDDC217-1C4F-4ECF-AA01-8C9E2F65F589@major-k.de> Hi Richmond, > Am 04.07.2019 um 14:02 schrieb Richmond via use-livecode : > > Thank you, Klaus, > > makes me feel even more stupid than I was feeling already. ;-) you are welcome! :-D > Richmond. Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From dvglasgow at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 08:12:21 2019 From: dvglasgow at gmail.com (David V Glasgow) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 13:12:21 +0100 Subject: Do variable vs field as AppleScript In-Reply-To: <0D88AF5F-DCDA-4ECA-8934-4827930B48D0@iotecdigital.com> References: