Navigator 7.3rc1 is available

chipsm at themartinz.com chipsm at themartinz.com
Wed Jan 30 17:45:56 EST 2019


No, I am cool with things the way they are. I am busy concentrating on my
project that I am developing. 
So Navigator works fine for me now. I look forward to any improvements that
you come up with.

Sincerely,

Clarence Martin
Email: Chipsm at themartinz.com
Cell: 626 696-5561

-----Original Message-----
From: use-livecode <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com> On Behalf Of
Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 1:17 PM
To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
Cc: Geoff Canyon <gcanyon at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Navigator 7.3rc1 is available

Most (almost all) of Navigator has nothing to do with the actual selection
of controls in Livecode. So the second window is working fine -- just select
whatever controls you want to work with in the list, and then everything
Navigator does, you can do -- change their properties in Navigator, edit
their script (or behavior script) etc. You can also do things like open
Livecode's property palette for a control or set of controls -- just select
them in the list, and then select Single Object Inspector or Individual
Object Inspectors on the Properties ("P") menu.

If that's not clear, what are you looking to do?

gc

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 12:26 PM Clarence Martin via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Will the update allow you to use Navigator to work in the Group Edit 
> Window?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Clarence Martin
> Email: Chipsm at themartinz.com
> Cell: 626 696-5561
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: use-livecode <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com> On Behalf 
> Of Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 11:38 AM
> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> Cc: Geoff Canyon <gcanyon at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Navigator 7.3rc1 is available
>
> Yep, that's exactly what I said -- when you open in a new Navigator, 
> the target is a specific container (a group in this case). Under those 
> circumstances Navigator doesn't try to select controls in Livecode, or 
> mimic Livecode's selections, because the group might not be visible or 
> selectable.
> Like I said in the bug, I'll add a setting and protection for 
> Navigator to try to mimic anyway
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 10:40 AM Clarence Martin via use-livecode < 
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > I created a video for you to see but it is being check by the 
> > LiveCode list admin for content because of its size.
> > Here is a link to my OneDrive folder containing the video:
> > https://1drv.ms/v/s!AmMnOdWPxdzK6jkkp3Kn8m7HIwm_
> > You can download and view it from there. I hoe this explains my
comments.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Clarence Martin
> > Email: Chipsm at themartinz.com
> > Cell: 626 696-5561
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: use-livecode <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com> On Behalf 
> > Of Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 9:31 AM
> > To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> > Cc: Geoff Canyon <gcanyon at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: Navigator 7.3rc1 is available
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 5:09 AM Clarence Martin via use-livecode < 
> > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Ji Geoff,
> > > I am responding to you 7.3rc1 and this is probably true about the 
> > > other releases too.
> > > I noticed that if I open a group in a New Navigator window, the 
> > > first Navigator window has lost control over the group that
> precipitated
> it.
> > > The new Navigator Window Group items don't respond to any items 
> > > that are clicked or highlighted.
> > > Also, if I open a group for editing, the Navigator window does not 
> > > respond to any items that are clicked or highlighted in the Group 
> > > Edit
> > window.
> > > I can live with this now that I know  about this behavior, but I 
> > > don't know if anyone has pointed this out to you.
> > >
> >
> > I'm not sure what you mean by "lost control". I followed these steps:
> >
> > 1. Created a Livecode window, added three buttons, and grouped them.
> > 2. Opened Navigator. It shows the stack, the card, the group, and 
> > the three buttons.
> > 3. Right-click on the group in Navigator, and select "Browse Controls"
> > on the popup menu. Navigator shows the stack, the group, and the
buttons.
> > 4. Right-click the first button in Navigator and select Rename... on 
> > the popup menu. Navigator opens the dialog and I successfully rename 
> > the button.
> > 5. Right-click the group in Navigator and select Open in New 
> > Navigator on the popup menu. Navigator opens a new window showing 
> > the same
> controls.
> > 6. In the new Navigator, right-click the second button and select
> Rename...
> > on the popup menu. Navigator opens the dialog and I successfully 
> > rename the button.
> > 7. In the original Navigator, right-click the third button and 
> > select Rename... on the popup menu. Navigator opens the dialog and I 
> > successfully rename the button.
> >
> > So Navigator still knows what controls it's supposed to display, 
> > displays them, and works with them.
> >
> > Wait -- do you mean highlighting? As in, select controls in 
> > Navigator, and they become selected in Livecode, and vice versa? If 
> > so, that was originally a function of Navigator displaying "this 
> > card of the topstack"
> > because it's impossible to select controls in a card that isn't 
> > being displayed. At some point there was a bug in Navigator where 
> > the code was trying to match highlights for anything displayed in
Navigator.
> > Any time the highlighting failed, Navigator's code would die 
> > silently because it's considered and IDE stack by the IDE. It didn't 
> > throw visible errors, but it means that any code after that doesn't 
> > get executed, so I fixed it to the way it was originally: if you 
> > select "the topstack" on the Target
> > (crosshair) menu, Navigator will display whatever is frontmost in 
> > Livecode, and match highlights.
> >
> > I added this, in case you are talking about highlights:
> > https://github.com/gcanyon/navigator/issues/32
> >
> > If that's not what you're talking about, let me know.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > gc
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