Levure update 0.9.5

Mike Kerner MikeKerner at roadrunner.com
Mon Feb 19 09:52:05 EST 2018


@Trevor
That would be good advice to add to the wiki as a "trying out and
transitioning to Levure" item

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 9:09 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Graham,
>
> 1) You do not need to scriptify (move code into script only stacks) your
> stacks to use them in Levure. Levure supports an organizational structure
> (the `ui` folder in Levure) which makes it easy to organize binary stacks
> that use script only stacks as behaviors.
>
> 2) You are not required to use Git in order to use Levure. Levure helps you
> organize your code so that you can benefit from version control. It doesn’t
> require it.
>
> 3) You can still benefit from using Levure if you don’t use script only
> stacks or git yet. Levure provides a powerful packaging system for
> packaging your apps for distribution. Helpers allow you to drop in
> functionality that your app may need such as Prefernces, Inno Setup,
> DropDMG, etc. (On a somewhat related note I’m currently updating SQL Yoga
> to work as a helper which will simplify its usage considerably as all of
> the configuration is done with YAML files.)
>
> What I’ve done in the past when converting an app is move my stacks into
> the appropriate Levure folders without worrying about scriptifying them. I
> then move any app initialization code into the appropriate handlers in the
> Levure `app.livecodescript` file.
>
> Once the app is working again then I go back and scriptify stacks as
> needed. Libraries that don’t use any internal custom properties are easy to
> convert as are front and back scripts. You can then slowly go through each
> folder in the `app/ui` folder and move the scripts into a `behavior` folder
> that sits along each stack. No rush though.
>
>> Trevor DeVore
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 4:33 AM Graham Samuel via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > I have not tried to look at Levure until now, but since I am in
> > difficulties trying to create a user-oriented update system (the kind
> that
> > professionals use Sparkle for on Mac, and other techniques on other
> > platforms), I have some hopes (from previous emails from Trevor) that
> > Levure might help me. However, on first looking at the wiki, I think that
> > what Levure needs is a big commitment to work in a specific way - a good
> > way, bien sure, but not the way us primitive old coders have been doing
> for
> > the last few decades. This means, if I am right (and I could so easily
> not
> > be) that a ‘traditional’ app development, where stacks contain code in
> > various forms, could not be retrofitted to the Levure environment.
> Rather,
> > one would have to start from scratch, or at the very least do a great
> deal
> > of restructuring of such an existing app, so that pretty much all the
> code
> > is script-only. Plus of course learning the philosophy of Levure, and
> > feeling comfortable with Github...
> >
> > Can anyone comment on this enough to clear my head a little?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Graham
> > (A very old coder, who in his twilight years is trying to stick purely to
> > LC rather than try to recycle his misspent youth, where several now
> extinct
> > low- and high-level languages had to be mastered).
> >
> > > On 16 Feb 2018, at 00:42, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 4:30 PM Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
> > > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Check the wiki instead of the readme.md.  The documentation is
> > extensive.
> > >> https://github.com/trevordevore/levure/wiki
> > >
> > >
> > > The wiki is definitely where you want to end up. The readme has a short
> > > description and points users to the wiki documentation to learn more.
> > >
> > > —
> > > Trevor DeVore
> > >
> > >> <https://github.com/trevordevore/levure/wiki>
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