Macintosh bloat

Richmond Mathewson richmondmathewson at gmail.com
Sun Aug 19 15:24:23 EDT 2018


Once upon a time there was an idea floating around that the programmer 
could choose,
via the standalone settings stack, what components to include, and what 
not to . . . .

  . . . the 'guff' for Unicode, the widget stuff, and so on.

This never materialised.

 From my point of view, when I build standalones for my Devaweriter Pro 
i need 100% the Unicode stuff; beyond
that I need precious few capabilities from any version after LC 4.5.

[ RR/LC 4.0 mucked up on GIF and PNG images and their transparency; that 
was sorted out by 4.5 ]

Now, as my "target demographic" (silly way of saying 'people I want to 
use my program') consists of people
who have laptop computers made in the last 15 years (Yes, as old as 
that) and hard disks of over 10 GB capacity,
the fact that the Mac builds of Devawriter Pro are currently coming in 
at 145 MB, while the Windows and Linux ones
are about 75 MB is not the end of the world.

What I am wondering about is whether that socking great size means that 
the Mac standalones contain buckets more "stuff"
the operating system has to "chew its way through", so slowing the thing 
down.

If that extra stuff which the operating system has to "chew its way 
through" is essential, well, so be it, but if it
is stuff my program will not use then that's a load of cr*p.

Richmond.

On 19/8/2018 7:48 pm, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
> i dunno if this is still an ssue..but in previous versions..... the
> standalones were bloated because of CEF.
>
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20339
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 6:06 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> 32-bit Mac.
>>
>> Richmond.
>>
>>
>> On 19/8/2018 12:15 pm, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Richmond,
>>>
>>> In the standalone settings, are you building for both 32-bit and 64-bit?
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 19, 2018, at 1:48 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
>>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I ran off a series of standalones to day: Mac, Win, Linux 32 and Linux
>>>> 64 and they ended up as these sizes, respectively:
>>>>
>>>> 146.6 MB, 72.4 MB, 75.6 MB, 75.9 MB
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone tell me why the Macintosh standalone is about twice the size
>>>> of all the others
>>>> [leaving aside remarks about the late Steve Jobs' ego, the fact that
>>>> Macintosh computers are hugely expensive and so on]?
>>>>
>>>> Richmond.
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