valueDiff for arrays?

David Glasgow dvglasgow at gmail.com
Sun Aug 5 12:23:04 EDT 2018


Maybe 'strain' could be a culinary synonym?
;-)

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David Glasgow

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> On 5 Aug 2018, at 16:36, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> This is getting pretty contorted and is becoming less like natural language. For what it's worth, I have never been confused by the current use of filter. I think of it as pouring soup through a wire strainer. Filtering "with" keeps the solids. Filtering "without" dumps them and keeps the liquid.
> 
> Maybe I cook too much. In any case, the solids (what remains after filtering) are the things you're either keeping or discarding.
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>> On August 5, 2018 9:38:45 AM Brian Milby via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Probably better:
>> 
>> 
>> filter [{lines | items | keys | elements} of] filterSource {keeping | discarding | with | without | [not] matching} {[{wildcard | regex} pattern] filterPattern | where filterExpression} [into targetContainer]
>> 
>> 
>> So Monte’s example would be:
>> filter keys of tFoo keeping where tFoo[each] is not tBar[each]
>> (And to get Richard’s result you would need to follow this by an intersect each way. The filter would replace the repeat loop in Mark’s solution)
>> 
>> 
>> Even though “with where” would be syntactically correct, the preferred usage would be “keeping where”.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Brian
>>> On Aug 5, 2018, 7:32 AM -0500, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>, wrote:
>>> On 2018-08-05 07:31, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:
>>> > Given I have been wanting to do ^ for a couple of years I decided to
>>> > just go ahead and do it… might be a while before we have time to
>>> > bikeshed the syntax though.
>>> >
>>> > https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6626
>>> > <https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6626>
>>> >
>>> > Examples:
>>> > local tFoo,tBar
>>> > put "foo" into tFoo[1]
>>> > put "bar" into tFoo[2]
>>> > put "baz" into tBar[1]
>>> > put "bar" into tBar[2]
>>> > filter keys of tFoo with expression tFoo[each] is tBar[each]
>>> > — tFoo now has one key 2 which is `bar`
>>> >
>>> > put “yes,foo” & return & “no,bar” into tFoo
>>> > filter lines of tFoo with expression item 1 of each is “yes”
>>> >
>>> > We could feasibly not use `with|without` for this forcing the
>>> > expression to return true to filter. If we went that way then perhaps
>>> > `where` would be nicest?
>>> >
>>> > filter lines of tFoo where item 1 of each is “yes”
>>> 
>>> Geez @Monte - you do like creating work for me don't you! ;)
>>> 
>>> In terms of syntax - definitely not 'with expression' - that's ghastly.
>>> It is a 'where' clause - in the same vein as SQL and other query
>>> languages - so no bike-shedding required there (also, pleasingly, all
>>> other 'filter' types become sugar for a where clause using operators
>>> which the language does not have yet - but obviously we have the code
>>> for...).
>>> 
>>> If we are going to bike-shed over syntax - can we do so over the use of
>>> 'filter' itself. I don't know why but I have a complete mental block
>>> about it - regardless of how many times I use it or read it - I always
>>> have to 'double-think' to work out what form to use - is that just me?
>>> 
>>> filter <things> of X with Y
>>> filter <things> of X without Y
>>> 
>>> I couldn't tell you just by looking *what* they actually do. I'm not
>>> sure why but I think the verb is actually wrong - in all cases you have
>>> a set of things and you are either keeping an element, or removing an
>>> element... So I wonder if:
>>> 
>>> keep <things> of X where Y
>>> discard <things> of X where Y
>>> 
>>> (I'm not particularly attached to keep/discard - but it does need to be
>>> a pair of 'true' antonyms which don't intersect with any other 'core'
>>> pairs of such things we have).
>>> 
>>> Might be more appropriate?
>>> 
>>> Of course, maybe it is just 'with' / 'without' are inappropriate, and
>>> 'where' might actually help me retrain my mind to see with/without as
>>> the sugar they truly are.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, thought it worth throwing out there to see what people think?
>>> 
>>> Warmest Regards,
>>> 
>>> Mark.
>>> 
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