Server Installation

[Simon Smith]

What I like about this is that it lowers the technical knowledge for
setting up a server and is a great starting point as you just need to
figure out an SSH client.

I have never really taken to Macs - although I do need to consider getting
one in the near future.

I have never liked Microsoft based hosting when I use to use ASP - it was
always messy and was never as stable as Linux based hosting and cost a fair
amount more.

At one of the companies I worked at, we had an a design agency client that
used Macs for all their designers - but chose to run Windows on them and
only use Windows software - never quiet understood that one.

I think a good shared host should always be considered as a first choice
when it comes to hosting anything - if nothing more than for the time
saving, the reduced stress and value. I have never hosted with HostM, but
the have been recommended to me a few times and I have only heard good
things about them.


On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Simon Smith wrote:
>
> > I got Livecode server up and running on the Windows 10 using both
> > XAMPP and WAMP without any trouble. Both WAMP and XAMPP only needed
> > a small change. I have documented everything here.
> > http://activethought.net/installing-livecode-windows/
> >- and work equally well for hosting a LiveCode server locally.
>
> Quite nice - thanks for posting that.
>
>
> > I started setting up an online Ubuntu server  - but it's been a while
> > since I have done it and its many many little steps and a lot of work
> > to document. And I don't think its an ideal solution either -
> > developers need something reliable that they can get up and running
> > quickly and does not require in depth knowledge of Linux to get setup.
>
> LOL - I said the same think after trying to set up a WAMP server a client
> required. I think as with anything touching on platform advocacy, the
> easiest thing is the one you know. :)
>
> In my case I began learning Linux because an increasing number of projects
> had client-server requirements, and nearly every shared host and most VPSes
> I've seen offer Linux, with only a few offering Windows Server at an
> additional cost.
>
> I've even had clients who use Windows exclusively on the desktop
> throughout their org (even the art dept. where Mac might be a better fit),
> but when it came to their public-facing systems they use Linux
> exclusively,  much as Apple, Amazon, and Google rely on it for their clouds.
>
> With OS X being a certified UNIX and Linux being very UNIX-based, I found
> I was able to leverage a lot of Mac automation skills when I started moving
> those bash scripts to my Linux hosts.
>
> In Win10 Anniversary Edition and later, Ubuntu is now available as a
> subsystem there too, so one can build their bash skills universally now.
>
> As for the steps involved, Mike Bonner's outline was very helpful:
> <http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2017-June/238297.html>
>
> And if you use Docker it gets even easier, thanks to Charles Warwick's LC
> container, allowing installation in one step, the Docker way:
> <http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2017-June/238318.html>
>
>
>
> > So after some research I can across ServerPilot.io - a cloud based
> > control panel for cloud servers (like Digital Ocean and Vultr). You
> > setup a clean server - link it to their control panel - and it takes
> > care of everything - in a minute or two you get a nicely setup server
> > - with control panel, mysql, apache and PHP.. Their free option gives
> > you the basics - everything that you need to get a server up and
> > running. There is the option of upgrading the control panel to get
> > extra features. Unfortunately the free account does not give you the
> > ability to setup SSL, You need to pay $10 a month for that - but you
> > can get around that using Cloud Flare.  All that you have to do is
> > setup LiveCode once everything is done - and you what is
> > a really nice little potent little server.
> >
> > If interested - I have gone through it in more detail here, I rushed
> > so hope I have not left anything out -
> > http://activethought.net/perfect-livecode-cloud-server/.
>
> Very nice - thanks.
>
> This reminds me of an interesting service Scott McDonald put together a
> while back, The LiveCode Lab, with multiple versions of LC Server set up
> and ready to use:
> <http://thelivecodelab.com/>
>
> The functional part is currently offline, but perhaps if some here were in
> a position to lend a hand he might be motivated to bring it back online.
>
>
> And of course if shared hosting will suffice, the good folks at HostM
> continue to offer a good price for what is AFAIK the only third-party
> commercial hosting service offering pre-configured LiveCode Server:
> <https://www.hostm.com/livecode-hosting>
>
>
> --
>  Richard Gaskin
>  Fourth World Systems
>  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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