Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

Richmond Mathewson richmondmathewson at gmail.com
Wed Jul 19 07:25:30 EDT 2017


"the question is this:"

How many new users of LiveCode are actually "brand new" in the sense 
that they have NO computer programming
experience at all?

And a few supplementary questions:

How many brand new users are going to be "freaked out" when the desktop 
"they know and love" vanishes without a particularly obvious
way to make it reappear without quitting LiveCode?

Is this 'reappearance' of an enforced backdrop (Yes, Sports fans, it 
came up way back) a 'fudge' to keep people who are rooting for a unified 
tiddley-pom
(what's it called?) of your collective back?

Richmond.

On 7/19/17 2:14 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
> On 2017-07-19 12:50, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
>> Lumpy custard!
>
> Just like your grandmother used to make?* ;)
>
>> Other people who have commented on this are all "on this list";
>> otherwise they would have been unable to comment.
>
> Indeed - my point was simply that due to a bug which we obviously did 
> not notice before release, the default backdrop ON option was not 
> limited to those who were experiencing the 'first run' of the product. 
> Thus meaning, that it affected existing users (which was not our intent).
>
>> What kind of 'analysis' would that constitute?
>
> So, at the user testing session, copious notes are taken, and 
> discussed afterwards. We also ask people involved to write up their 
> experience and give us feedback on specific points (and generally), 
> these are also discussed. This then allows us to have some idea how 
> 'good' an idea is - i.e. whether it is worth its cost balanced against 
> its effectiveness.
>
> In this case, the question is this:
>
> For brand new users of LiveCode, who have never seen it before (and 
> quite possibly never used a programming environment before) does 
> having a backdrop in place initially help them in their first steps 
> with the product, particularly from the point of view of doing the 
> first run tutorials.
>
> This is of course a slightly wooly and subjective question. However, 
> it is probably a good idea if over 50% of people we try it out on 
> (from various different groups - with different backgrounds) think it 
> has actually 'helped'.
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Mark.
>
> P.S. As a child, I used to frequently comment on the consistency of my 
> grandmother's custard... Her general response was "You grandfather 
> likes it thick, boy!"
>




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