Feature Race: Pick Your Project

Dan Brown danoldboy at gmail.com
Wed Jul 5 15:42:00 EDT 2017


Delays happen, my take from the comments is that the communication on
progress was lacking more than anything. People like to fund ideas and
there should be a journey to completion attached to the pledge experience.
Even if it's just  footnotes in blog posts and mailers here and there.
Little and often.

Anyhow is there no possibility of extending the campaigns deadline? An
extra week or two coupled with the new infinite livecode updates would
really increase the chances of the goal being met

On 5 Jul 2017 7:04 pm, "Kevin Miller via use-livecode" <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I¹m not sure if its apathy or more likely just the holiday weekend. That
> said...
>
> I¹m sorry its taken so long to do Infinite LiveCode. As I¹ve said in my
> keynote, in the comments section and on the blog, we wouldn¹t be funding a
> new project if it that one wasn¹t in the last stages of being wrapped up.
> Android has been mostly delivered and the other platforms and stretch
> goals are a small piece now. We really have finally cracked this project,
> getting it into a build is the last step.
>
> The reality is that we now need to look at what we are doing next and what
> is affordable. If we don¹t fund this project, the knock on effects for the
> platform will be very significant. We¹re already a very small team that
> punches well above our weight. We have the potential for a very bright
> future with the rather amazing stuff that you can now do. Check out Ali¹s
> blog post on Android and wait a few more days for more. We can build on
> everything we¹ve just created and maintain the considerable momentum we
> have built or we can shrink.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Kevin
>
> Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
> LiveCode: Everyone can create apps
>
>
>
>
> On 05/07/2017, 18:24, "use-livecode on behalf of Dan Brown via
> use-livecode" <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com on behalf of
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> >The comments section on the pledge page gives a good insight as to why
> >there may be a feeling of apathy towards this fundraiser
> >
> >The infinite livecode campaign from last year was not handled well in
> >terms
> >of communicating progress to the community, with questions about the
> >sqlite
> >library rewrite remaining unanswered
> >
> >On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
> >use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Wow.  I'm surprised we aren't closer to getting this funded.  c'mon
> >>y'all
> >> let's get this funded!
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via
> >> use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I had similar feelings, (I have taken almost every pitch to "pay in
> >> > advance for X number of years for this discount or thatŠ ) so when we
> >>get
> >> > hit up again for development that one would hope would be just part of
> >> the
> >> > product road map, it does indeed seem odd. Even "advanced smooth
> >> scrolling
> >> > graphics" seems odd to be funding, since all this is doing is bring
> >>the
> >> LC
> >> > mobile on parity with any other smooth flowing app.
> >> >
> >> > This is terribly obvious, but just to say it all again:
> >> >
> >> > Thinking about it, one has to appreciate the challenge the company
> >>faces.
> >> > Having gone open source, Livecode moves to a world where everyone and
> >>his
> >> > kid sister thinks programming is free. PHP, Javascript, python,
> >> CSSŠpeople
> >> > living in those world just don't pay for their tools.
> >> >
> >> > So if open source users are going up (which apparently they are)Š that
> >> > doesn't help us (to say the obvious)
> >> >
> >> > If not enough of them are using LC to build products for sale to
> >>support
> >> > themselves, OR are not using the tools in-house inside Enterprise
> >>(like
> >> we
> >> > do here, even though we are non -profit we do have software budgets)
> >> where
> >> > budgets are such that the ROI on paid license(s) is well worth it.
> >>And it
> >> > would be easy enough for some unscrupulous for-profit company to have
> >>5
> >> > coders on community and only one license and pretty much get away with
> >> > itŠ(which is cheating of course)Š
> >> >
> >> > So  If the user "pie" of those whose are paying  <> equal $ to support
> >> the
> >> > company and + hours for features, how does LC handle this, to stay
> >>alive?
> >> >  And we all want it to stay aliveŠright?
> >> >
> >> > I was hoping to talk to Kevin about some other ideas for solutionsŠ
> >>but
> >> he
> >> > is busy. Perhaps I need to fly to Scotland for tea. In the meantime, I
> >> > voted/pledged for the DataGrid2/GraphicsUpgrade.
> >> >
> >> > Brahmanathaswamai
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 6/24/17, 7:41 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Alex Tweedly via
> >> > use-livecode" <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com on behalf of
> >> > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >     So the Feature Race lets me choose between "Hosting debugger" and
> >> >     Datagrid 2.
> >> >
> >> >     Hmpphhh!
> >> >
> >> >     <puts on Grumpy Old Man t-shirt ...>
> >> >
> >> >     I have a hard time voting for, or funding, Hosting debugger. I
> >> already
> >> >     paid for that, back in 2009.
> >> >
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