Livecode Content Management System

Andre Garzia andre at andregarzia.com
Mon Dec 4 09:50:38 EST 2017


Taking a tangential line of thought in this thread, I think there is value
in exploring "more focused" or "less flexible" solutions than complete CMSs
to gauge the feasibility of a CMS project. Specially if it is something
like David said that leverages the Desktop value of LC while spewing out
static files. A simple landing page creation tool could fit the bill. There
is a lot of need for landing pages, they all look the same in terms of
features (and visuals unfortunately), and should be doable with less work
than a full CMS.

Building such small tools would enable our community to understand the web
better and how to bridge our both worlds of LC and Web. So far, most of our
web efforts have been "PHP-inspired", as in our server engine behaves like
PHP and our frameworks look and feel like PHP frameworks. RevIgniter and my
old RevSpark, are basically PHP frameworks in a different language but PHP
is not on the bleeding edge of web development anymore. There are many
other ways of doing web work that are closed to us and who knows what will
be possible five years from now.

Any tool built today, in any language, with aspirations to be webby should
be generating a PWA. Generating a simple barebones progressive web app
(this is not your old progressive enhancement) boilerplate is quite easy.
The new features such as WASM (which is implemented in all major browsers
already), Service/Shared/Web Workers, and all the other APIs from the web
platform are all awesome but working with them require a a not so quick
learning curve. LC could help create flexible tools that generate code, and
I am talking beyond the current HTML5 deployment (which I don't own a
license and can't play with), I am talking about using the power of our
long living IDE and language to invent our own tools. I believe that LC is
great for writing tools and time is best spent writing tools than products
(unless the tool is the product).



On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 8:42 AM, David Bovill via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I don't see much value in building a CMS or CMS front end. There is value
> in a CMS, but not I'd saying in making another CMS. Build on revIgniter as
> Dave says?
>
> On 3 December 2017 at 12:57, Dave Kilroy via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Alex
> >
> > My instinct would be to build on revIgniter rather than start another
> > (possibly competing) project - I would be much more likely to contribute
> to
> > an enriched revIgniter than to two disjointed projects
> >
>
> Rather than replicating a tradition CMS, I would see taking an
> "opinionated" approach to the software design.  Build on the strengths and
> uniqueness of Livecode, and modern concepts such as continuous deployment.
> revIgniter as it stands can be part of an authoring platform, but the
> published output should be a modern static site, using the curated best of
> componentised and responsive HTML5 design. revIgniter in that context
> becomes part of the authoring environment, but not the deployment
> environment. Would love to work with people on this.
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