attaching my group id to a control in a subgroup

jonathandlynch at jonathandlynch at
Tue Aug 22 18:28:42 EDT 2017

Can you have a function in the appropriate group that returns its unDna? This way, it will not matter about any subgrouping.

Function MyUnDna
Return the unDna of me
End MyUnDna

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> On Aug 22, 2017, at 6:08 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode <use-livecode at> wrote:
> I have a uniqDna value for each datum in my data.  This is used to store
> and retrieve it from a database.
> When I create an output group for one of these (and there are a great many
> different output groups), the group is labeled with these IDs.
> The output group will typically contain label fields and graphics, but gets
> its unDna set to the corresponding uniqDna.  It also contains fields for
> output.
> When an output field is modified, the handler calls the seal routine,
> passing the field name, new value, and the unDna.
> I had made, for performance reasons, the strong assumption that the output
> fields would always be a top level member of the output group.  I also
> designed output groups which, for organizational reasons, group the output
> fields . . . oops . . .
> The closeField handler follows the rule, and assumes that the unDna of the
> owner of the target is the uniqDna value it needs.  This backfires when not
> true :(
> One obvious solution would be to simply ungroup the offending groups--but
> there are good reasons to want it have subgroups (such as sharing subgroups
> for maintenance of similar outputs with shared elements).
> At the moment, the three possibilities I see are,
> 1) recurse upwards until a group with a unDna is found (well, close; there
> are universal fields with no unDna)
> 2) check the owner of the owner of the target
> 3) redundantly set the uDna of every output field at group creation/copying
> time.
> I need this to be blindingly fast, too (although I doubt that this is a
> problem in 2017).
> Am I missing an obvious way to do this?
> -- 
> Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
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