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Mark Waddingham mark at livecode.com
Wed Aug 2 18:41:22 EDT 2017


Sorry - release the source-code of things you write in LiveCode you distribute to others.

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Aug 2017, at 00:21, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Just to pay reference to the comment about LiveCode - I missed it the first time around...
> 
> We (LiveCode Ltd.) did not 'give away' LiveCode. We released it under a software license that has strings.
> 
> The GPL requires (subject to interpretation by lawyers - and a court of law) you to also release your source code of the things you write in LiveCode.
> 
> There's no such thing as a free lunch - there's always some sort of payment somewhere - even if that payment is 'for the good of all' rather than in any form of 'currently understood currency'.
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 2 Aug 2017, at 23:24, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/3/17 12:03 am, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Richmond Mathewson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> No, I don't think we have to respect Apple's policy at all.
>>> 
>>> A similar view might ask whether the DevaWriter license terms need to be respected, or LiveCode Ltd.'s, or Stephen King's, or the protections afforded any creator of an original work.
>>> 
>> <snip>
>> 
>> LOL.
>> 
>> I have just changed my Devawriter licensing system so that each instantiation of it that I sell is tied to the MAC address of
>> an individual computer. Therefore there is nothing to respect, a chain is a chain, and if someone manages to spoof Mac Addresses
>> on a large scale to use my program the fact that they would go to that trouble proves it's a program worth having!
>> 
>> I have made my "licensing" system as hard as I can: I'm sure it can be broken: whether it is worth going to that bother remains to be seen;
>> after all you can have a site licence for 10 machines at $200.
>> 
>> If I really wanted to make "my fortune" programming computers I wouldn't be tinkering around in our spare bedroom at 55 anyway . . .
>> 
>> The reason I have changed it is because I know of someone who purchased my Devawriter 3 years ago and now has copies all over the place:
>> my bad, I should have taken a bit more trouble: at least some people are finally getting their heads around "Sanskrit As it Should Be":
>> 
>> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/home.html
>> 
>> Apple's policy is "just" Apple trying something on. A EULA is NOT a legally binding agreement: if you choose to abide by it you
>> can feel "awfully" moral, much in the same sort of way I haven't fathered 27 children with 27 mothers simultaneously (which, oddly
>> enough, is not illegal) makes me fell that I'm slightly more moral in some respects.
>> 
>> I bought a 10 year-old Intel iMac about 8 months ago. I had the system install disks from a Mac laptop of my wife's that went bang about 3 years ago.
>> Now I was probably breaking some sort of agreement by using those disks to get my iMac going - possibly not "meant" to install on another Mac other
>> than the one they were bought with. Morally, as the one the disks came with a dead computer I could see nothing wrong with using them to get
>> another, similar computer running; especially as I could find no way to purchase Mac OS Lion disks from Apple.
>> 
>> LiveCode give away the Open Source version of their product. . .
>> 
>> Stephen King . . . well, if you really have to read his books you can borrow them from the library . . . I read 3 of them in about 1984.
>> 
>> Love, Richmond.
>> 
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