Revenue and the Open Source edition

[Kaveh Bazargan]

The fact that is so much discussion about the licenses shows there is a
problem. LiveCode's pricing has been complex as long as I can remember.
Most software you pay once, it's yours, you get free updates, and if there
is a major upgrade, you pay for upgrade. Big, terrible companies like Adobe
are entrenched in the market and can charge what they want. LiveCode is no
Adobe yet!

On 4 May 2016 at 09:50, JB <sundown at pacifier.com> wrote:

> I think the community version would have
> more community involvement if they gave
> people more externals to show them how
> to create externals.
>
> I get the feeling tje mothership does not
> want community advancement externals.
>
> And so it is obvious everyone cannot be
> involved in programming the open source
> version for many different reasons.  That
> leaves people little chance to participate
> by adding code.  Use it, point out bugs
> and pay money.  That is not what I was
> hoping for.
>
> JB
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 3, 2016, at 7:56 PM, Robert Mann <rman at free.fr> wrote:
> >
> > I goes one of the central issue of a community version.. is.. community!?
> >
> > How to make people feel member of the community? get them involved?
> >
> > One way of doing that is to let people buy something maybe not much, but
> > something. That was the idea of the pay once upgrade when you feel which
> was
> > tried before.
> >
> > Paradoxically, with the community version, the more we move ahead from
> the
> > great community foundation kickstart, the less there may be a feel of
> > community!!?? what do you think?
> >
> > So maybe the question about Open source Edition and revenue? could be
> > rephrased to something different like :: Open source edition and BENEFITS
> > (of all kinds to the livecode ecosystem) ???
> >
> > As an example, I'm pretty sure that many of us really like that
> > language/tool and would take some time to promote it e.g. at schools.
> That
> > would need organization and incentives, like.. the benefit of more
> > affordable  commercial license schemes that could even be traded to help
> out
> > people start up something. And that would cost nothing and could be an
> > important medium term benefit.
> >
> > On the whole, i feel mothership is kind of into  shyzophrenic situation
> ::
> > the move to open source certainly was a generous move, event though at
> that
> > time it may just have been death and exit otherwise. And the other hand
> we
> > feel a commercial pressure with prices going up and up for the little
> rock
> > of commercial folks.
> >
> > I was surprised to see that the "community" developments fundings were
> not
> > so successful. it was a way of carrying forward the initial kickstart
> move.
> > Maybe that should be tried agin, possibly with a different organization :
> > would it change the results if the community participated to selection of
> > developments proposed? or even.. drove them!? well hum, that would be
> > revolution that would imp lie seeing up some kind of representation of
> that
> > community.
> >
> > Livecode Community could be well used for a lot of "community" actions in
> > our societies. I though personally of attending the "units debuts comity
> of
> > computing" in Paris just to talk to them about livecode because they
> need to
> > build a set of tools and livecode community would be just right. and that
> > would greatly expose livecode (they gather 250 geeks from Paris..
> > imagine..).
> >
> > Now that mothership has embarked on the community track, the next step
> could
> > well be to get together some kind of representation of the group to
> > exchange, meet, discuss and relay etc with the objective to establish
> such a
> > community feeling??
> >
> > And that could have a huge potential to motivate, generate many actions
> that
> > bring those many benefits, that are hard to see yet with a close view to
> > revenues.
> > My cents!
> >
> >
> >
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Kaveh Bazargan
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