Version 8, DP16 Tutorial Runthrough

Ali Lloyd ali.lloyd at livecode.com
Thu Mar 17 19:18:52 EDT 2016


I think some of your issues may be because you have the property inspector
set to Property Labels -> Name of LiveCode property rather than Description
of Option. I'll add a bug report to make sure the latter option is selected
during the tutorial.

The double click on the inspector icon is actually a very subtle bug:
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17154

All the rest is very helpful feedback, thank you!

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 10:41 PM William Prothero <prothero at earthednet.org>
wrote:

> Folks:
> I just downloaded LC 8 DP16 and tried out the tutorial. I suspect that the
> authors of this would appreciate my notes as I went through the tutorial.
> First, off, it’s really nice and does show that Livecode can make very cool
> apps. Great job!
>
> Since this is the first intro a newbie might get to Livecode, it’s really
> vital that the tutorial process be flawless. That’s why I’m hoping my
> comments below are helpful, and I do know how hard it can be, when the IDE
> may be a slightly moving target and there is LOTS to do.
>
> As you can read from my notes below, I took the perspective of a new user
> who has never been exposed to livecode. There were a few gotchas that even
> had me scratching my head a bit. One very important thing when teaching
> newbies, is to scrupulously pay attention to how the instructions actually
> match what the newbie sees on the screen. There were a number of instances
> where I got stuck, but then got by by guessing what was meant. These are
> noted below.
>
> ——— My Notes ————
> 1. When open the property inspector for the stack, you have to click on
> the property inspector to get the instruction.
> Careful to match instructions with actual labels on IDE.
> (e.g. “Set the Navigation names of” ? There is no listing in the property
> inspector named “Navigation Names”)
> (e.g. Line Thickness.  you mean Line size)
>
> 2. It says in several places, to click on the “grey icon”. You mean the
> black icon.
> Clicking the property inspector icon doesn’t always open the property
> inspector. Double clicking on the control does.
>
> 3. I got stuck on setting the contents property of the Label field.
> Whoops, figured it out.
>     The “Contents” property is not listed on the property inspector. It is
> called “Styled Text"
>
> 4. I got to where I grouped the header and footer to make it a shared.
> Whoops, the property inspector opened for one of the elements of the group.
> I used the right hand (upper) dropdown menu on the property inspector and
> it looked like there was a listing for a group. I selected that. It worked!
> A newbie probably wouldn’t find it.
>
> 5. Setting up the chart. “Line colors”, the IDE shows “Graph Colors”
>
> 6. Setting "navigation names" doesn’t match the property inspector.
>
> 7. The tutorial refuses to advance once the “Code” button is clicked. The
> window opens, but the instruction pane stays where it was. Whoops, had to
> first click on the footer control.
>
> 8. Last card: It says “Open the property Inspector” . The dropdown menu
> shows “Card Inspector”
>
> 9. Setting up the navigation bar, the tutorial states to put in items as
> “Calculator,Chart,Services”. But, each time a new item is added, a separate
> box is created for the entry.
>
> ———————————————————————————————————
>
> I hope this helps the dev team.
> Best,
> Bill
>
> William Prothero, Ph.D.
> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
> prothero at earthednet.org
>
>
>
>
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