Control? Object?

me at jerrydaniels.com me at jerrydaniels.com
Sun Jun 19 08:46:47 EDT 2016


Well said, Mark!

Best, Jerry

On Jun 19, 2016, 7:23 AM -0500, Mark Schonewille<m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com>, wrote:
> Hi Richmond,
> 
> The LiveCode documentation consistently talks about objects, where this
> should be controls. The scripting language, however, mixes up the two
> concepts completely.
> 
> An object is a collection of properties and instructions defined by a
> programming syntax (where one shouldn't limit "programming syntax" to
> the traditional text listings but also include "syntax" created by
> visual programming environments).
> 
> A control is an often visual component of an interface, which allows the
> user to interact with the program, such as a button, a field and a slider.
> 
> Objects can create controls, but objects may also perform other tasks,
> such as saving data to disk, creating arrays, moving a control, and many
> other tasks.
> 
> In my book, I consistently distinguish objects and controls. This means
> that I almost always talk about controls and very rarely about objects,
> because it isn't really necessary to use objects in the LiveCode
> scripting language and AFAIK there is no "create object" command in the
> LiveCode language (but if you really want to, you can simulate objects).
> 
> It is interesting that LiveCode (I'm working with 6.7.6 today) doesn't
> have an "object" keyword but does have a "control" keyword, while many
> functions, commands and messages contain either the string "control" or
> the string "object".
> 
> It is clear that LiveCode hasn't matured well enough to deal with this
> issue. I would recommend using above definitions consistently. One day,
> real objects will be introduced into the LiveCode scripting language and
> we will need to distinguish them from controls.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Mark Schonewille
> http://economy-x-talk.com
> https://www.facebook.com/marksch
> 
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> 
> Op 19-Jun-16 om 09:19 schreef Richmond:
> > I am currently teaching some children Livecode programming and ran into
> > some difficulty
> > on Friday when a child asked me why the menus were full of the word
> > "Control"
> > when I had been talking about "Objects".
> > 
> > Well?
> > 
> > How about changing every use of the word "Control" to "Object"?
> > 
> > Enhancement Request 17879
> > 
> > Richmond.
> > 
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