monte at appisle.net
Fri Jan 8 18:41:05 EST 2016
> On 9 Jan 2016, at 9:35 am, Richard Gaskin <ambassador at fourthworld.com> wrote:
> Monte Goulding wrote:
> >> On 9 Jan 2016, at 8:24 am, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> >> I'm fine with writing some code so the main process hands off tasks
> >> to workers. The issue I've run into is that I've found no way to
> >> hand the socket connection to the worker.
> > This is unnecessary.
> It might seems so because I'm interleaving discussion of two different desires: FastCGI and scalable socket servers. If this isn't needed for FastCGI so much the better, but if one were to make a sort of Node.lc I would imagine they'd need to hand off socket connections to workers, no?
Or you could just act as an intermediary accepting connections from whatever is making the request and then routing the incoming data to the appropriate child process.
> > The basic idea with FastCGI is you have a process sitting there that
> > is waiting for a request, handles the request and goes back to
> > waiting for the next one. mod_fcgid, spawn_fcgi and I’m sure other
> > things take this a step further by farming out the requests over
> > multiple processes. Often the processes will have a life of say 500
> > requests where they will be killed and replaced to protect against
> > memory leaks etc.
> Sounds easy. Why didn't Todd just do that back when he was exploring ways to use FastCGI with LC?
We didn’t get that far
> As or my earlier fixation on fork(), it stems from an older discussion of these issues here with Andre:
> As it is, FastCGI is worse than CGI for LC because with CGI we
> can answer more than one user at the same time by spawning new
> processes. With FastCGI, while the request was being processed,
> no other request would be answered. Thats not a FastCGI limitation,
> the protocol is way smarter than CGI you receive all requests on
> the same port and you're supposed to fork(). Since we have nothing
> like forking on LC, we're dead on that front.
We are going around in circles here a bit. Check the docs for mod_fcgid where there are settings to control the number of processes and spawn rate https://httpd.apache.org/mod_fcgid/mod/mod_fcgid.html <https://httpd.apache.org/mod_fcgid/mod/mod_fcgid.html>
The nuts of it is that mod_fcgid will start a new process if it has permission to and there’s a request but no idle processes.
> Richard Gaskin
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