blockchain

David Bovill david at viral.academy
Tue Aug 23 15:31:34 EDT 2016


Thanks for the link!

On 23 August 2016 at 20:00, Jerry Jensen <jerry at jhjensen.com> wrote:

> IEEE is getting interested in blockchain technology. Here’s a basic
> article:
>
> http://theinstitute.ieee.org/technology-topics/computing/
> getting-linked-to-the-blockchain
>
> .Jerry J
>
> > On Aug 20, 2016, at 2:17 AM, David Bovill <david at viral.academy> wrote:
> >
> > Mike that would be great. I'd like to get together a small group to
> > research together the integration of Livecode with blockchain - starting
> in
> > November. The format would be asynchronous work with some live
> > get-togethers.
> >
> > Involvement does not need to be super-geeky. It will be a research group,
> > so I'll collect links, podcasts and videos and present these within a
> > Livecode environment - so there is a need for media, writing and research
> > skills and we will be working together on a publication within Livecode.
> > This publication will also be online and on the decentralised web.
> > Super-geeks with a knowledge of Javascript and Livecode are also more
> than
> > welcome.
> >
> > If anyone else is interested just email me here or off-list, and I'll
> send
> > out information when the dates are confirmed.
> >
> > On 18 August 2016 at 13:44, Mike Kerner <MikeKerner at roadrunner.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> James, I'm always interested in what other folks are doing, and I'd
> like to
> >> hear more about the setup.  David, I'd definitely be interested.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:20 AM, David Bovill <david at viral.academy>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes - I've been interested in Livecode and blockchain for a couple of
> >> years
> >>> now. I've been following Ethereum since the beginning - we tried to
> make
> >> a
> >>> documentary about the project and I went to DevCon 1 in Berlin as the
> >> team
> >>> started it's development.
> >>>
> >>> There is an interesting online Hackathon in November if any Livecoders
> >> are
> >>> interested in taking part / forming a team?
> >>>
> >>> On 18 August 2016 at 01:27, Richard Gaskin <ambassador at fourthworld.com
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Jerry Daniels wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, 5:12 PM -0500, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is the business benefit for this application to go P2P rather
> >>>>>> than client-server?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Richard, cost savings, security, privacy. Costs are drastically
> >>>>> reduced without hosting and its (hidden) labor/maintenance. Just
> >>>>> think about the long record of exploitation of hosted SQL data.
> >>>>> Not in the models were discussing here.
> >>>>
> >>>> I like the idea* of P2P for some applications, but with the explosion
> >> of
> >>>> cloud services the client-server model seems to have merit as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> On the one hand, there are the risks of managing (hopefully redundant)
> >>>> server farms.  On the other hand there are the risks of having every
> >>> client
> >>>> also be a server, but without a team of professionals hardening and
> >>>> monitoring it.
> >>>>
> >>>> All systems are hackable.  Ideally prevention, monitoring, and
> recovery
> >>>> are budgeted for in the business plan with any architecture.
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe there's a role for both client-server and P2P, and federated
> >>>> models as well.  Each has its own benefits and tradeoffs; like
> >>> programming
> >>>> languages, there'll always be more because use cases where they can
> add
> >>>> value only grow and diversify.
> >>>>
> >>>> Back to blockchains, from my reading it's becoming clear that the
> >>>> distributed trust is a compelling feature, along with the increased
> >> speed
> >>>> with which transaction ledgers can be conveyed faithfully.  Like the
> >>> early
> >>>> days of railroads, networks outside of Bitcoin employ different
> >>> standards,
> >>>> each with its own kinks to work out but worth the effort. Over time it
> >>>> seems likely they'll impact global quality of life as significantly as
> >>> the
> >>>> invention of compound interest.
> >>>>
> >>>> Lots to learn....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Richard, Mike...sorry for my butting in here. Feel free to ignore my
> >>>>> interruption.
> >>>>
> >>>> Au contraire, mon ami.  Always good to have you around.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> * I've been paranoid for years, and enjoying Mr. Robot has only made
> >> that
> >>>> worse. :)  For the last several years I've run my main laptop and
> >>>> workstation with no open ports (easy to do with Ubuntu since it ships
> >>> that
> >>>> way; took some work to harden my Mac). This has meant that as eagerly
> >> as
> >>> I
> >>>> used to visit openp2p.com and read the other things, these days P2P
> is
> >>> an
> >>>> interesting set of ideas but not something I focus on; all
> >> collaboration
> >>>> systems here use only outbound connections.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Richard Gaskin
> >>>> Fourth World Systems
> >>>> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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