blockchain

Jerry Jensen jerry at jhjensen.com
Tue Aug 23 15:00:48 EDT 2016


IEEE is getting interested in blockchain technology. Here’s a basic article:

http://theinstitute.ieee.org/technology-topics/computing/getting-linked-to-the-blockchain

.Jerry J

> On Aug 20, 2016, at 2:17 AM, David Bovill <david at viral.academy> wrote:
> 
> Mike that would be great. I'd like to get together a small group to
> research together the integration of Livecode with blockchain - starting in
> November. The format would be asynchronous work with some live
> get-togethers.
> 
> Involvement does not need to be super-geeky. It will be a research group,
> so I'll collect links, podcasts and videos and present these within a
> Livecode environment - so there is a need for media, writing and research
> skills and we will be working together on a publication within Livecode.
> This publication will also be online and on the decentralised web.
> Super-geeks with a knowledge of Javascript and Livecode are also more than
> welcome.
> 
> If anyone else is interested just email me here or off-list, and I'll send
> out information when the dates are confirmed.
> 
> On 18 August 2016 at 13:44, Mike Kerner <MikeKerner at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> 
>> James, I'm always interested in what other folks are doing, and I'd like to
>> hear more about the setup.  David, I'd definitely be interested.
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:20 AM, David Bovill <david at viral.academy> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes - I've been interested in Livecode and blockchain for a couple of
>> years
>>> now. I've been following Ethereum since the beginning - we tried to make
>> a
>>> documentary about the project and I went to DevCon 1 in Berlin as the
>> team
>>> started it's development.
>>> 
>>> There is an interesting online Hackathon in November if any Livecoders
>> are
>>> interested in taking part / forming a team?
>>> 
>>> On 18 August 2016 at 01:27, Richard Gaskin <ambassador at fourthworld.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Jerry Daniels wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, 5:12 PM -0500, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What is the business benefit for this application to go P2P rather
>>>>>> than client-server?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard, cost savings, security, privacy. Costs are drastically
>>>>> reduced without hosting and its (hidden) labor/maintenance. Just
>>>>> think about the long record of exploitation of hosted SQL data.
>>>>> Not in the models were discussing here.
>>>> 
>>>> I like the idea* of P2P for some applications, but with the explosion
>> of
>>>> cloud services the client-server model seems to have merit as well.
>>>> 
>>>> On the one hand, there are the risks of managing (hopefully redundant)
>>>> server farms.  On the other hand there are the risks of having every
>>> client
>>>> also be a server, but without a team of professionals hardening and
>>>> monitoring it.
>>>> 
>>>> All systems are hackable.  Ideally prevention, monitoring, and recovery
>>>> are budgeted for in the business plan with any architecture.
>>>> 
>>>> I believe there's a role for both client-server and P2P, and federated
>>>> models as well.  Each has its own benefits and tradeoffs; like
>>> programming
>>>> languages, there'll always be more because use cases where they can add
>>>> value only grow and diversify.
>>>> 
>>>> Back to blockchains, from my reading it's becoming clear that the
>>>> distributed trust is a compelling feature, along with the increased
>> speed
>>>> with which transaction ledgers can be conveyed faithfully.  Like the
>>> early
>>>> days of railroads, networks outside of Bitcoin employ different
>>> standards,
>>>> each with its own kinks to work out but worth the effort. Over time it
>>>> seems likely they'll impact global quality of life as significantly as
>>> the
>>>> invention of compound interest.
>>>> 
>>>> Lots to learn....
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Richard, Mike...sorry for my butting in here. Feel free to ignore my
>>>>> interruption.
>>>> 
>>>> Au contraire, mon ami.  Always good to have you around.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> * I've been paranoid for years, and enjoying Mr. Robot has only made
>> that
>>>> worse. :)  For the last several years I've run my main laptop and
>>>> workstation with no open ports (easy to do with Ubuntu since it ships
>>> that
>>>> way; took some work to harden my Mac). This has meant that as eagerly
>> as
>>> I
>>>> used to visit openp2p.com and read the other things, these days P2P is
>>> an
>>>> interesting set of ideas but not something I focus on; all
>> collaboration
>>>> systems here use only outbound connections.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Richard Gaskin
>>>> Fourth World Systems
>>>> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
>>>> ____________________________________________________________________
>>>> Ambassador at FourthWorld.com                http://www.FourthWorld.com
>>>> 
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