blockchain

David Bovill david at viral.academy
Sat Aug 20 05:17:43 EDT 2016


Mike that would be great. I'd like to get together a small group to
research together the integration of Livecode with blockchain - starting in
November. The format would be asynchronous work with some live
get-togethers.

Involvement does not need to be super-geeky. It will be a research group,
so I'll collect links, podcasts and videos and present these within a
Livecode environment - so there is a need for media, writing and research
skills and we will be working together on a publication within Livecode.
This publication will also be online and on the decentralised web.
Super-geeks with a knowledge of Javascript and Livecode are also more than
welcome.

If anyone else is interested just email me here or off-list, and I'll send
out information when the dates are confirmed.

On 18 August 2016 at 13:44, Mike Kerner <MikeKerner at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> James, I'm always interested in what other folks are doing, and I'd like to
> hear more about the setup.  David, I'd definitely be interested.
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:20 AM, David Bovill <david at viral.academy> wrote:
>
> > Yes - I've been interested in Livecode and blockchain for a couple of
> years
> > now. I've been following Ethereum since the beginning - we tried to make
> a
> > documentary about the project and I went to DevCon 1 in Berlin as the
> team
> > started it's development.
> >
> > There is an interesting online Hackathon in November if any Livecoders
> are
> > interested in taking part / forming a team?
> >
> > On 18 August 2016 at 01:27, Richard Gaskin <ambassador at fourthworld.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Jerry Daniels wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Aug 17, 2016, 5:12 PM -0500, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> What is the business benefit for this application to go P2P rather
> > > >> than client-server?
> > > >
> > > > Richard, cost savings, security, privacy. Costs are drastically
> > > > reduced without hosting and its (hidden) labor/maintenance. Just
> > > > think about the long record of exploitation of hosted SQL data.
> > > > Not in the models were discussing here.
> > >
> > > I like the idea* of P2P for some applications, but with the explosion
> of
> > > cloud services the client-server model seems to have merit as well.
> > >
> > > On the one hand, there are the risks of managing (hopefully redundant)
> > > server farms.  On the other hand there are the risks of having every
> > client
> > > also be a server, but without a team of professionals hardening and
> > > monitoring it.
> > >
> > > All systems are hackable.  Ideally prevention, monitoring, and recovery
> > > are budgeted for in the business plan with any architecture.
> > >
> > > I believe there's a role for both client-server and P2P, and federated
> > > models as well.  Each has its own benefits and tradeoffs; like
> > programming
> > > languages, there'll always be more because use cases where they can add
> > > value only grow and diversify.
> > >
> > > Back to blockchains, from my reading it's becoming clear that the
> > > distributed trust is a compelling feature, along with the increased
> speed
> > > with which transaction ledgers can be conveyed faithfully.  Like the
> > early
> > > days of railroads, networks outside of Bitcoin employ different
> > standards,
> > > each with its own kinks to work out but worth the effort. Over time it
> > > seems likely they'll impact global quality of life as significantly as
> > the
> > > invention of compound interest.
> > >
> > > Lots to learn....
> > >
> > >
> > > > Richard, Mike...sorry for my butting in here. Feel free to ignore my
> > > > interruption.
> > >
> > > Au contraire, mon ami.  Always good to have you around.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > * I've been paranoid for years, and enjoying Mr. Robot has only made
> that
> > > worse. :)  For the last several years I've run my main laptop and
> > > workstation with no open ports (easy to do with Ubuntu since it ships
> > that
> > > way; took some work to harden my Mac). This has meant that as eagerly
> as
> > I
> > > used to visit openp2p.com and read the other things, these days P2P is
> > an
> > > interesting set of ideas but not something I focus on; all
> collaboration
> > > systems here use only outbound connections.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >  Richard Gaskin
> > >  Fourth World Systems
> > >  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
> > >  ____________________________________________________________________
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