blockchain

Mike Kerner MikeKerner at roadrunner.com
Thu Aug 18 08:44:39 EDT 2016


James, I'm always interested in what other folks are doing, and I'd like to
hear more about the setup.  David, I'd definitely be interested.

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:20 AM, David Bovill <david at viral.academy> wrote:

> Yes - I've been interested in Livecode and blockchain for a couple of years
> now. I've been following Ethereum since the beginning - we tried to make a
> documentary about the project and I went to DevCon 1 in Berlin as the team
> started it's development.
>
> There is an interesting online Hackathon in November if any Livecoders are
> interested in taking part / forming a team?
>
> On 18 August 2016 at 01:27, Richard Gaskin <ambassador at fourthworld.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Jerry Daniels wrote:
> >
> > > On Aug 17, 2016, 5:12 PM -0500, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> > >>
> > >> What is the business benefit for this application to go P2P rather
> > >> than client-server?
> > >
> > > Richard, cost savings, security, privacy. Costs are drastically
> > > reduced without hosting and its (hidden) labor/maintenance. Just
> > > think about the long record of exploitation of hosted SQL data.
> > > Not in the models were discussing here.
> >
> > I like the idea* of P2P for some applications, but with the explosion of
> > cloud services the client-server model seems to have merit as well.
> >
> > On the one hand, there are the risks of managing (hopefully redundant)
> > server farms.  On the other hand there are the risks of having every
> client
> > also be a server, but without a team of professionals hardening and
> > monitoring it.
> >
> > All systems are hackable.  Ideally prevention, monitoring, and recovery
> > are budgeted for in the business plan with any architecture.
> >
> > I believe there's a role for both client-server and P2P, and federated
> > models as well.  Each has its own benefits and tradeoffs; like
> programming
> > languages, there'll always be more because use cases where they can add
> > value only grow and diversify.
> >
> > Back to blockchains, from my reading it's becoming clear that the
> > distributed trust is a compelling feature, along with the increased speed
> > with which transaction ledgers can be conveyed faithfully.  Like the
> early
> > days of railroads, networks outside of Bitcoin employ different
> standards,
> > each with its own kinks to work out but worth the effort. Over time it
> > seems likely they'll impact global quality of life as significantly as
> the
> > invention of compound interest.
> >
> > Lots to learn....
> >
> >
> > > Richard, Mike...sorry for my butting in here. Feel free to ignore my
> > > interruption.
> >
> > Au contraire, mon ami.  Always good to have you around.
> >
> >
> >
> > * I've been paranoid for years, and enjoying Mr. Robot has only made that
> > worse. :)  For the last several years I've run my main laptop and
> > workstation with no open ports (easy to do with Ubuntu since it ships
> that
> > way; took some work to harden my Mac). This has meant that as eagerly as
> I
> > used to visit openp2p.com and read the other things, these days P2P is
> an
> > interesting set of ideas but not something I focus on; all collaboration
> > systems here use only outbound connections.
> >
> >
> > --
> >  Richard Gaskin
> >  Fourth World Systems
> >  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
> >  ____________________________________________________________________
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> >
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