looking for an alternative to KAGI, because KAGI ceased operations

Earthednet-wp prothero at earthednet.org
Tue Aug 2 10:41:11 EDT 2016


Folks,
I'm wondering if it wouldn't be easier to just set up a payment web page that you interact with in the browser widget. Then you could, for instance, for PayPal, just use their easy payment button to get paid. There would need to be https communication, probably with some kind of encrypted key for validation, probably. 

Just thinking.

Best,
Bill

Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Aug 2, 2016, at 6:35 AM, Graham Samuel <livfoss at mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Wow! That’s great.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Graham
> 
>> On 2 Aug 2016, at 13:30, Matthias Rebbe <matthias_livecode_150811 at m-r-d.de> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 02.08.2016 um 12:32 schrieb Graham Samuel <livfoss at mac.com <mailto:livfoss at mac.com>>:
>>> 
>>> Matthias, are you planning to use Zygodact with the Fastspring platform? Is this possible? I’ve literally just started exploring this area, so I’d appreciate any pointers.
>>> 
>> Yes and yes.
>> I have already setup a basic lc script for use with the Zygodact generator stack “gen.rev” and Fastspring. And the test orders run through w/o problems.
>> I will add some DB stuff to it, to store the orders in my own DB also.
>> 
>> What i can say so far is: You definitely do need  a commercial version of LC server, because the gen.rev stack Zygodact produces is password protected and LC Server Community Edition is not able to work with
>> password protected stacks.
>> 
>> I will create a pdf with intstructions for Zygodact/Fastspring with sample scripts like the PDF i created for Zygodact/KAGI.
>> The sample script will allow you to use it right away. You will just have to change one value in that script. It´s a private key which is provided by Fastspring. 
>> 
>> But give me 2-3 days, okay?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Aug 2016, at 09:59, Matthias Rebbe <matthias_livecode_150811 at m-r-d.de <mailto:matthias_livecode_150811 at m-r-d.de>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Hugh,
>>>> 
>>>> i had the same impression, but my tax consultant recommend to go the save and easy way and use a seller platform.
>>>> 
>>>> So i set up an account with Fastspring this morning. At the moment i am building a web service around the my license generator.
>>>> Seems not to be very complicated.
>>>> 
>>>> Btw.: If someone  is looking for a keygen solution for LiveCode then have a look at Zygodact
>>>> http://hyperactivesw.com/solutions_zygodact.html <http://hyperactivesw.com/solutions_zygodact.html> <http://hyperactivesw.com/solutions_zygodact.html <http://hyperactivesw.com/solutions_zygodact.html>>.
>>>> 
>>>> I can´t say it often enough: It´s really an awesome and timesaving solution.
>>>> 
>>>> Matthias
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>>> Bramkampsieke 13
>>>> 32312 Lübbecke
>>>> Tel    +49 5741 310000
>>>>    +49 160 5504462
>>>> Fax: +49 5741 310002
>>>> eMail: matthias at m-r-d.de <mailto:matthias at m-r-d.de> <mailto:matthias at m-r-d.de <mailto:matthias at m-r-d.de>>
>>>> 
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>>>>> Am 02.08.2016 um 10:07 schrieb FlexibleLearning.com <http://flexiblelearning.com/> <admin at FlexibleLearning.com <mailto:admin at flexiblelearning.com>>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> EU VAT is only due on AUTOMATED transactions. Communicating by email and
>>>>> attachments does NOT constitute "Digital Services"...
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/41 <https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/41>
>>>>> 5931/VAT_MOSS_Flow_chart_FSB_edit_V1_0.pdf
>>>>> 
>>>>> If your product requires a key (i.e. they are buying a key to the software)
>>>>> and you take the time to send your customer a personal email with the key,
>>>>> my understanding is this is a MANUAL transaction and so falls outside the
>>>>> scope of the legislation. If the key is issued automatically, then it does
>>>>> fall in the scope of the legislation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is my understanding of this mess. I am not a lawyer and you should make
>>>>> up your own mind whether you are affected or not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hugh Senior
>>>>> FLCo
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matthias Rebbe wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know, Paypal is easy. I used it before 01.01.2015. But after that date
>>>>> the EU
>>>>>> changed the rules how VAT has to be handled for digital products when sold
>>>>>> within the EU.
>>>>>> So the VAT declarations for every EU country i have to do every month is
>>>>> the
>>>>>> problem. Using PayPal i am the seller of the product and therefore i am
>>>>>> responsible for the VAT declarations.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Every month / 3 months i have to declare how much VAT i have received
>>>>>> from the customers for each of the EU countries i sold my software to.
>>>>>> That means, even if i just sell only one license to a customer in France
>>>>> for
>>>>>> example, i have to do same amount of paper work as if i have sold  20
>>>>>> licenses to 20 different customers in France.
>>>>>> If i sell 5 licenses to 5 different EU countries, i have to do 5
>>>>> declarations.
>>>>>> And if i do not sell for example to a french customer one month, i still
>>>>> have
>>>>>> to do the declaration for France. In this case with the information that i
>>>>> did
>>>>>> not receive ?french? VAT that month.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can imagine how much work that is.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think i will give Fastspring or Avangate a try. Let?s see who of them
>>>>> answers
>>>>>> my email questions faster? ;)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Matthias
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>> Tel    +49 5741 310000
>>       +49 160 5504462
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