App Browser versus Project Browser

Richmond richmondmathewson at gmail.com
Wed Oct 7 15:04:31 EDT 2015


On 07/10/15 21:54, Mark Waddingham wrote:
> So if we had deleted the app browser stack from the build, would your point of view have changed and would you have started to use the project browser? ;)

When I finally got to look at a LiveCode 8 build after a week's hiatus 
with various computer problems,
as the App Browser  was not accessible from the menus my first reaction 
was to try to export the
App Browser from LiveCode 7.1 and port it over to LiveCode 8.

While I'm on a roll, I could also point out that I cannot see any 
obvious advantages in the complete
remake of the Preference Palette in LiveCode 8.

To contextualise things: I remember the major interface overhaul that 
took place via RR/LC 2.6 to 3.0,
and the 'new' preference palette was vastly better than the previous 
one, as was the whole IDE.

Richmond.

>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 7 Oct 2015, at 19:46, Richmond <richmondmathewson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/10/15 21:40, Mark Waddingham wrote:
>>> Indeed - but I don't think your tone of phrase was using it in that exact manner? ;)
>>>
>>> By the way, I'm smiling here - it is a useful conversation to have if it is constructive. Either app browser bashing or project browser bashing isn't particularly useful to my mind.
>> I'm not Project Browser bashing as such.
>>
>> I was very surprised when the Project Browser arrived, and played with it quite a bit, but reverted to the App Browser as could not
>> see any obvious advantages.
>>
>> As both Browsers are present in current LiveCode 8 builds I don't actually see anything wrong with retaining both of them.
>>
>> The fact that the menu system in the revMenuBar stack does NOT allow access to the App Browser does give out a signal which
>> is fairly blatant that the App Browser is not going to be with us much longer:
>>
>> it was this that precipitated my small hack to allow access to the App Browser.
>>
>> R.
>>
>>> What is useful is getting the information about what the best approach is to the problem - which is all I was trying to promote :)
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On 7 Oct 2015, at 19:34, Richmond <richmondmathewson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 07/10/15 21:22, Mark Waddingham wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-10-07 20:08, Richmond wrote:
>>>>>> Well, it seems that the "people" are speaking with one voice over here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=25503
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, as an experiment in participatory democracy, and whether
>>>>>> RunRev/LiveCode REALLY listen
>>>>>> to their installed customer base, Please go there and give your opinion.
>>>>> If by the 'people' you mean yourself, one other person and another who said he doesn't even use the application browser (and hasn't for years) ;)
>>>> Well, I may not know much, but I do know that 'people' is a collective noun, so, had I just meant myself I would have used 'person'.
>>>>
>>>>> To be fair, whilst preference *might* be an interesting thing to gauge... Far more useful would be constructive criticism of both the Project Browser and the Application Browser. It does seem a little 'silly' to maintain two things which serve essentially the same purpose - so Ali's idea is perhaps the best way forward - what is it that is good and bad about both and is it possible to design something which everybody would be happy with?
>>>>>
>>>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark.
>>>> R.
>>>>
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