Checkboxes

Mike Kerner MikeKerner at roadrunner.com
Mon May 5 20:16:49 EDT 2014


When I was teaching beginners to use HC back in The Day, "checkboxes are
buttons" was always grasped right away.


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Dar Scott <dsc at swcp.com> wrote:

> A kid recently made a fireball object.  He called it a ‘part' so he could
> change from graphic to image.  (I didn’t explain behavior and me, but this
> will have to come up.)
>
> Dar
>
>
> On May 5, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Mike Kerner <MikeKerner at roadrunner.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Whoops - yes, when I was describing what the code might be, I messed up
> and
> > didn't include the object type.  My bad.
> >
> > But after looking at it again, I sort-of like not having to remind LC
> that
> > it's a group, or a control, or a button, etc.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Mike Kerner <MikeKerner at roadrunner.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I don't like this idea.  Every control then has to have some special
> >> keyword for describing its state, even when the controls are compound,
> as
> >> radio buttons and segmented controls, tables, etc. are on mobile.
> >> Originally, a checkbox was for one state, and a radio button was for
> >> multiple states.  A segmented control, a table, etc. are all differing
> >> visual representations of the same thing, but the way the behavior is
> >> described can vary, and as we have seen with mobile, the appearance can
> >> change, too.  Checkboxes still check...for now, but Jony Ive, or the
> lead
> >> designer from any other interface project can blow that paradigm up any
> >> time they choose, and you can choose to follow or not.
> >>
> >> So if, for single-state controls, you want to have a new property, then
> it
> >> should be something that is appearance-agnostic, like, I don't know,
> >> selected, perhaps, and I think it should be boolean and matter-of-fact
> >> if the selected of myCheckbox
> >> or
> >> if myCheckbox is selected
> >>
> >>
> >> For multi-state controls, again, the keyword should be appearance
> >> agnostic, or perhaps the control ought to be a single unit with multiple
> >> options instead of being independent controls
> >>
> >> if myRadioButtons is "one" then
> >> or
> >> if myListOfBundesligaSquads is "Bayer" then
> >>
> >> and the script of those controls should apply to every option in the
> >> "group" (for lack of a better word), and it ought to be a single control
> >> instead of several controls, like radio buttons are/tend-to-be.
> >>
> >
> >
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On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth
On the second day, God created the oceans.
On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,
   and did a little diving.
And God said, "This is good."



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