Late to the party

[mikedoub at gmail.com]

The real issue is that those of us that have been working with standard devices don't know how to help you.   I sure folks will share any info we have, but you are charting new territory..at least for those on this list.  

Mike
  Original Message  
From: Richmond
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 6:01 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Reply To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: Late to the party

On 31/12/14 22:37, J. Landman Gay wrote:
> On 12/31/2014 1:23 PM, Richmond wrote:
>>
>> What I need to know is where in those 2 volumes I should place my
>> Livecode standalone so that it shows up on the iPad desktop.
>
> It's all hidden and iOS doesn't offer a file system. The only way to 
> get an app onto your device normally is to install it the usual way 
> via over-the-air or through iTunes.
>
> I don't know how jailbreaking the device will affect it, but in an 
> unrooted device you must have a developer account and the appropriate 
> certificates and distribution profiles set up. Otherwise the app won't 
> install.
>
> If there is a different way with a jailbroken tablet then you'll need 
> to do some research, as Apple doesn't allow that.

"Apple doesn't allow that"; Ooo, I'm scared . . .

I jail-broke the thing because I really don't like being told what to do 
with something I own:

1. A friend of mine keeps hens in a car: that's OK. Mind you it can be a 
bit disconcerting if one brakes suddenly
and one gets a squawking chicken butting one in the back of the head. 
The second time I borrowed one of his cars
I took the second from the left (he has 8 old cars in a row), knowing 
the hens stayed in the first. I saw some lovely
day-lilies growing in the sheuch, stopped the car, and felt something 
licking my neck - I'd picked the car with the goat!

2. I use a copy of a book given out at airports by a well-known cult as 
a way to prop open the toilet door so the cats
can get in and out to do their business: that's positively a lot better 
than what the cult intends it for.

3. The iPad was gifted to me by my son (who was gifted it by Sheikh 
Abdullah al-Thani); so I really don't know who agreed to
some funny EULA that won't stick anyway.
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"It's all hidden and iOS doesn't offer a file system." Really? Try 
hooking an iPad up to a Linux box. Extremely informative.

When I connect the iPod to my Ubuntu Studio I can see a set of nested 
directories via the Thunar file-browser that is
the standard XFCE thing:

One path: /Documents on Richmond's iPad/ contains folders with the same 
names as apps I have installed (i.e. NOT the standard ones that
come pre-installed when one installs iOS), each of thos folders contains 
one folder called ZZZ.app (where 'ZZZ' is the name of the app) and
a series of other folders: 'Documents', 'Library', 'tmp' and two 
documents: 'iTunesArtwork' and 'iTunesMetadata.plist'.

So, PRESUMABLY, I have to author an iOS standalone on Macintosh and then 
put the resulting app package in a folder with the same name in
the Documents folder via Linux.

Certainly that is what I shall try to do.

I shall also have some 'fun' examining the contents of the plist files 
of other apps . . .

By-ther-way: the file system mounts on Linux running XFCE regardless of 
whether it has been jail-broken or not.

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Before anyone wants to get all hoity-toity and pompous about my 
jail-breaking an old iPad (and the amount of people on this Use-List
and the Forums who do get all hoity-toity about that sort of thing never 
ceases to amaze me, especially as the imposition of those
sort of rules by companies that manufacture operating systems and/or 
computer hardware is legally shaky at the best of times,
and anybody with a half-decent brain can work out that legality and 
morality do not have a one-to-one correspondence), I assure you
I have NOT jail-broken my iPad out of some of attempt to start 
manufacturing Livecode standalones and handing them out from my website
with instructions to end-users on how to subvert Apple's draconian 
control to install the things.

I have fooled around with the iPad emulator and, frankly, find it 
extremely difficult to work with: an iPad coming my way was jolly lucky; so
I jail-broke the thing for 2 reasons, the first is listed above, and the 
second is so I can try out an iPad standalone PROPERLY by running
my alpha, beta and (probably) gamma, delta and epsilon versions on the 
thing before I go and make a fool of myself by issuing an
iPad App that mucks everybody's iPad up.
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I should, perhaps, point out that if anybody else wants a "walk on the 
wild side" and to jail-break their iPad, I tried it twice: the first time
I "hosed" the thing completely and had to restore the whole thing via 
iTunes.

The second time I used a different method and, so far, things seem alright.

Anybody who wants the exact details should contact me off-list as this 
has "sweet F.A." to do with Livecode.

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"in an unrooted device you must have a developer account and the 
appropriate certificates and distribution profiles set up. Otherwise the 
app won't install. "

One of the jolly things about 'Cydia' (the app-thing that gets installed 
on one's iPad if one jail-breaks it by one of the
standard, ready-made ways), is that there is a user-guide that tells you 
how to obtain administrator access using
Mobile Terminal' and everybody's favourite "su root".

Richmond.


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