AW: OT: Mac installer rights?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

I have thought about that also, but my progam and the installer is codesigned and usually the user gets a message telling something about not trustful sources or something like that, even with "level 1" of the security settings. But in this case no message appeared, the installer starts installing, runs through to the end without any error message apparently installing and only a hidden logfile of the installer told me "can't create dir..."
Meanwhile I have packed all files into a DMG, which she could copy without problems into the same place.
Really weired.
Thanks Tiemo

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von J. Landman Gay
Gesendet: Samstag, 13. Dezember 2014 18:02
An: How to use LiveCode
Betreff: Re: OT: Mac installer rights?

The user probably has their security settings set to the default,  which disallows installation except from the Mac App Store. The second level of security allows third party installations but only if they are code signed. The third level allows anything. 

You can tell the user to change the setting to allow installation from anywhere,. For a novice user this can compromise the security of the machine, so they may want to set it back to the default after installation. 

On December 13, 2014 5:10:00 AM CST, Tiemo Hollmann TB <toolbook at kestner.de> wrote:
>Hi Jacque,
>thanks for your comments. That is funny, because I am using Mark 
>Schonewilles Installer Maker since years without any problems and also 
>with this product it installs my LC prog as expected on all of my 
>clients Macs from OS X 10.5 to 10.10. This is the only one (on 10.9.5), 
>where this phenomenon happened, so I think there must be something 
>being messed up on the machine.
>Tiemo
>
>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] Im 
>Auftrag von J. Landman Gay
>Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Dezember 2014 19:22
>An: How to use LiveCode
>Betreff: Re: OT: Mac installer rights?
>
>On 12/12/2014, 10:08 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
>> My question to the Mac guys: What is the difference concerning
>writing
>> rights when the same user creates manually folders and files or lets 
>> an installer do that for him? Is there on Mac something similar as on
>
>> Windows like "run as Admin" to try to lift the user rights? Or is
>here
>> something completely messed up? I have never experienced this before.
>
>It is part of the Mac OS sandboxing, which prevents software from 
>writing files to locations outside of its own folders. This prevents 
>malware from writing to disk in areas it does not control.
>
>Except for certain drivers and extensions, OS X does not use 
>installers, and users do not expect one. The user simply drags the app 
>bundle to the applications folder. You can zip the app if you like, and 
>the user can unzip it and drag it into the folder. Or commonly apps 
>ship in dmg files (a virtual device image.) These are easy to create 
>with various Mac utilities such as Drop DMG. Most users are familiar 
>with dmg files.

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Jacqueline Landman Gay         |     jacque at hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software           |     http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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