Strange standard button issues

Paul Hibbert paulhibbert at
Sun Oct 6 01:39:48 EDT 2013

I use the Graphic Effects regularly and never really noticed that!

Just tried it and was surprised to see what you mean, I guess I have always just clicked on the name and it worked as I expected, but yes the checkboxes and names can be out of sync and that could be really confusing.

So clicking the name gives access to the controls for that effect and toggles the effect (and checkbox) on & off, whereas clicking the checkbox only turns the effect on or off and doesn't show the relevant controls.

I'm not too sure it's a bug, I think there is some logic to the way it works if you understand it, but it's just not too obvious, think of the checkbox like the eye button on a Photoshop layer, it lets you turn the layer on or off without editing that layer.

Maybe if each name appeared more like a button or layer (aka Photoshop), even if they were just separated with a line it would maybe make more sense.

I think I never questioned it because of using PS a lot, I probably used the same logic without realising it.


On 2013-10-05, at 8:32 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> On 10/5/13 10:01 PM, Kay C Lan wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Peter Haworth <pete at> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:12 PM, J. Landman Gay <jacque at
>>>> wrote:
>>> Gave that a whirl but no difference.  The only one that gives access to the
>>> settings is dropshadow.
> Oh, and also, it is possible to tick a checkbox without actually selecting the name of the effect. Things only work if both the checkbox is ticked and the name itself is hilited. So sometimes you need to click both.
> That's the bug, actually. The name hilite and the checkbox should be in synch.
> Not all settings are applicable to all effects. When some of them enable but others don't, it means the dimmed ones aren't applicable.
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