FieldFormatter: Working group

Andrew Kluthe andrew at ctech.me
Thu Oct 3 12:29:30 EDT 2013


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On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Vaughn Clement <vclement at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Hugh
>
> This is really a breath of fresh air in that LC is starting to grow up. I
> have been saying for awhile that LiveCode will evolve or go away. It may
> take developers to move the stake forward in the way other software
> languages have come of age. I believe that when the developers start adding
> externals and plugins to LC it will start to be a better product. I
> understand that there are currently some externals out there, but there is
> a ton of new capability that can still be added. For example, I spent weeks
> learning how to do programming tasks that should be built into LiveCode in
> the properties  dialog. It was all the things your offering in your
> properties in this email. This should not require hours of coding to get
> such a simple task done. Plus you also covered things that I did not take
> time to add like the comma for thousands. That should also be a properties
> item in LiveCode just like the numeric settings.
>
>
> Thank you
>
> Vaughn Clement
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> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:07 AM, FlexibleLearning.com <
> admin at flexiblelearning.com> wrote:
>
> > A new field formatting palette and frontscript library is nearing
> > completion. The properties palette, syntax and integration are all in
> place
> > and working.
> >
> > - What is its purpose?
> > In short it separates data from display. Field contents can, for example,
> > be
> > displayed as currency (or any other arbitrary unit of measure),
> percentage,
> > dateTime, time duration or 'privatised', with numeric fields additionally
> > owning their own numberFormat, negative color, and thousands separator.
> The
> > underlying 'text' (or data) is unchanged; as soon as the field loses
> focus
> > or as soon as we programmatically change any of the properties, the field
> > contents change to reflect the new property settings.
> >
> > - How do we use it?
> > Either using the properties palette or by script, we can
> > 'set the percentage of fld n to true' : so 0.2 can be displayed as 20%
> > 'set the numeric of fld n to true/false' : so only numbers can be entered
> > 'set the displayChars of fld n to "$" : so 10 can be displayed as $10
> > 'set the numericFormat of fld n to 0.00' : so 10 can be displayed as
> $10.00
> > 'set the showThousands of fld n to true' : so 1250 can be displayed as
> > $1,250.00
> > 'set the privateChars of fld n to "......"' : so pa55w0rd can be
> displayed
> > as privatised text
> > 'set the defaultText of fld n to "Enter a date here..."' : so empty
> fields
> > can display gray text help
> > 'set the dhms of fld n to true' : so 70.38 can be displayed as 01 : 10.4
> > 'set the isUSformat of fld n to false' : so 3/6/13 can be displayed as 3
> > June 2013
> > 'set the dateTimeFormat of fld n to "yyyy-MMM-dd"' : so 3/6/13 can be
> > displayed as 2013-Jun-03
> > [.../...] etc
> > then
> > 'put the rawtext of fld n into tQty' : so we can get the data rather than
> > the field contents
> > 'set the rawtext of fld "total" to tQty * tCost' : so we can manipulate
> the
> > data and retain formatted displays.
> > [.../...] etc.
> >
> > It should all 'just happen' intuitively.
> >
> > It works with both the LC and MC IDE development environments, so
> clicking
> > twice on a field will show the new palette along with the existing IDE
> > palettes.
> >
> > - What is needed?
> > A small group of (preferably seasoned) developers to
> > [1] review the palette UI
> > [2] check integration and functionality
> > [3] critique and make suggestions, especially about the property names
> and
> > further functionality
> > [4] discuss, propose and share with a cc to others involved
> > [5] thrash the cr*p out of it :)
> >
> > If interested, please let me know off-list. I agree with Richard G and am
> > hoping this concept will become mainstream, but it has to 'go with the
> > flow'
> > and be a seamless extension to the existing 'feel' of LiveCode. Longer
> > term,
> > I'd like it or something similar to be available at engine level, but
> this
> > is something we can all use now.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Hugh Senior
> > FLCo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Andrew Kluthe
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