With Apple script no longer supported, how do I....
Jim Hurley
jhurley0305 at sbcglobal.net
Wed Aug 7 11:26:46 EDT 2013
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> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 00:20:59 -0500
> From: Geoff Canyon <gcanyon at gmail.com>
> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> Subject: Re: With Apple script no longer supported, how do I....
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> Would it work to export from within FileMaker, and then import that file
> into LC? That would mean writing a (very simple) script in FileMaker, or
> just manually exporting using the specified layout as a template, and then
> writing a simple importer in LC.
Yes Geoff, that is what I did for some time before I became away of the Apple Script solution.
You, of all people, understand the value of the nice, neat solution.
It was so easy to put the relevant data into a FM layout, move over to LC, and then just click a button and the data appeared just where I wanted it, and formatted for maximum massaging in LC. No file create and export. No resulting file I need to remember to trash. Sooo nice and neat. I will miss it.
Here is my dream, my dream DB management application: FM but with LC as the scripting language. Seems to me like a killer application. FM, in attempting to make it easy (?) for the novice, made it traumatic for experienced programers.
Jim
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> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Jim Hurley <jhurley0305 at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
>> Election season is fact approaching in my county. I do a lot of election
>> DB work.
>>
>> One thing I have long relied on was the ability to extract data stored
>> Filemaker and put it into a LC stack, (where the scripting language is not
>> idiotic.)
>>
>> I have done this with something like this (below) executed as Apple
>> Script:
>>
>> set theDatabase to choose file with prompt "Please locate a FileMaker Pro
>> database file to open:"
>> tell application "FileMaker Pro"
>> with transaction
>> try
>> open theDatabase
>> go to layout "list"
>> get every record of layout "list"
>> end try
>> end transaction
>> end tell
>>
>> It was slow but it worked.
>>
>> With Apple script gone, will there remain a way to script in LC a way to
>> extract info from FM?
>>
>> Please tell me this is a naive question, and the answer is easy.
>>
>> Jim Hurley
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> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 08:34:04 +0100
> From: Neil Roger <neil at runrev.com>
> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> Subject: Re: unable to start simulation on iOS
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> Dear Malte,
>
> You could also try resetting the iOS simulator to its default state via
> the "reset content an Settings" option from the iOS Simulators
> application bar.
>
> iOS simulator---->Reset Content and Settings
>
> Please note that this will clear currently installed iOS applications
> from the simulator.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Neil Roger,
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>
> On 07/08/2013 00:05, Malte Brill wrote:
>> I wanted to work I created a while back. It fails to open in the simulator with the following error:
>>
>> unable to start Simulation: Could not install the app (in german, so the english wording might be a little different). A vanilla new stack launches just fine in the Simulator. I already deleted the standalone settings custom property, but to no avail. Anybody got an idea what is happening here?
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> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 10:01:31 +0200
> From: Malte Brill <revolution at derbrill.de>
> To: use-livecode at lists.runrev.com
> Subject: Re: unable to start simulation on iOS
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> Thanks Monte and Neil,
>
> changing the identifizier fixed this. Can't see the tree from the forrest sometimes.
>
> :-)
>
>
> Best,
>
> Malte
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> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 10:05:38 +0200
> From: paolo mazza <mazzapaoloitaly at gmail.com>
> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> Subject: Re: MobGui and Resolution Indipendence
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> Thank you all for your messages.
>
> I had a look at the mApp framework. I do not understand exactly how it
> works and AFAIK there is not any documentation about this software yet (I
> can listen to Monte's presentation at the last RunRev meeting though).Then
> I wonder how to deal with the MIT licence if I have to deploy a commercial
> app.
>
> I am aware that in the future a new version of LiveCode will integrate the
> "resolution independence" feature. But, how long I have to wait for?
>
> Then, to sumarize, at the present time, what is the best practice to
> create a little commercial app for the iOS devices ?
>
> - build an app with several different layouts taylored according the "
> iphoneUseDeviceResolution"
> - installing MobGui plugin and let this software to manage the resolution
> issues
> - using mApp framework
> - wait for the "resolution independence" be integrated in LiveCode
>
> I need your advice to start a new project on the right track!!!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Paolo Mazza
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Monte Goulding <monte at sweattechnologies.com
>> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 07/08/2013, at 2:31 AM, Roger Eller <roger.e.eller at sealedair.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Go LiveCode Team! I despise having to use separate platform-specific
>>> solutions.
>>
>> Actually mApp is quite capable of being used as a desktop framework too.
>> Right at the moment I'm in a quandary about extending it some more for
>> desktop to give it the features I'll miss from GLX or splitting the project
>> I'm considering this for. The thing that mApp doesn't do which the OP was
>> about I think is pretty buttons etc. That's up to you. It won't become
>> redundant when resolution independence is released BTW it will just change
>> the scaling code to whatever minor things need to be done for the
>> resolution independence stuff to work.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> --
>> Monte Goulding
>>
>> M E R Goulding - software development services
>> mergExt - There's an external for that!
>>
>>
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> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 09:48:36 +0100
> From: John Dixon <dixonja at hotmail.co.uk>
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> Subject: linking for armv7 failed...
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> I am in the middle of trying to upload an ipad app to itunes...
>
> To cover what I have showing in the livecode prefrences under 'mobile support'
> I have xcode 4.4.1, 4.52, 4.6, 4.6.2, 4.6.3
> Available SDK's 5.1, 6.0, 6.1
> Available simulators 5.1, 6.0, 6.1
>
> I have my app identifier, development provisioning profile, distribution profile
>
> I can build and run in the simulator... I can build a standalone and run it on an iPad... but I can only build the standalone with the 'build for' setting set to arm6... universal or arm7 doesn't seem to want to know.
>
> I tried using the 'application loader' to load the 'distribution build' set to arm6, but it quiclky tells me that the armv7 component is missing...
>
> When I try to build for armv7 the error message displayed, reads :-
> There was an error while saving the standalone application
> linking for armv7 failed with arm-apple-darwin10-llvm-g++-4.2:
> /private/var/folders/z9/zhgc043x3cxbg5955vch0mbw0000gn/T/TemporaryItems/tmp.554.AdxUp0vO:
> No such file or directory
>
> Anyone know where I am going wrong ?
>
> Dixie
>
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> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 10:27:18 +0100 (BST)
> From: Mark Wilcox <m_p_wilcox at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> Subject: Re: MobGui and Resolution Indipendence
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>>> ?Then?I wonder how to deal with the MIT licence if I have to deploy a commercial?app.
>
> The MIT license tells you - you have to provide a copy of the copyright notice and permission statement (essentially a copy of the license file) with all copies of the software, although I'm sure Monte isn't planning to sue anyone who doesn't.
>
> There is nothing that says you have to make a copy of the license highly visible or easy to access, so you could just add it to the app bundle as an external file. However, generally accepted practice is to either include the license in an about box in your app if you have one, or add it to the end of your EULA on the App Store if you don't.
>
>>> ?Then, to sumarize, at the present time, what is the best practice? to?create a little commercial? app for the iOS devices ?
>
> There isn't really an ideal solution at the moment, so it depends on your current and expected future requirements. How long is the app likely to be maintained? Might you ever want to build it for Android?
>
>>> - build an app with several different layouts taylored according the "iphoneUseDeviceResolution"
>
> This works for iOS only but as an approach doesn't scale to Android where there are so many more resolutions to deal with. ?The native iOS development community have been strongly encouraged towards auto-layout recently which suggests there may be some additional resolutions on the way for iOS too.
>
>
>>> -?installingMobGui plugin and let this software to manage the resolution?issues
>
> I believe the future of this plugin will remain uncertain until RunRev have released (or at least revealed much more detail on) their resolution independence and native platform themes functionality. ?It would work for now but you *might* need to switch away from it in the future.
>
>>> - using mApp framework
>
> This appears to be a viable long term solution across all platforms but as you say it doesn't really have any documentation yet, so there will be a greater learning curve.
>
>>> - wait for the "resolution independence" be integrated in LiveCode
>
>
> If you have no time pressure then this is the easiest option but I wouldn't count on having something complete and stable in the next few months. ?It's also not yet clear that this will be sufficient for most apps or if you'll still need something like mApp to manage layouts dynamically - from what I've read about the feature so far it looks like the latter may be the case.
>
> Hope that helps,
> Mark
>
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> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 10:32:14 +0100 (BST)
> From: Mark Wilcox <m_p_wilcox at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> Subject: Re: linking for armv7 failed...
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> Are you using any externals that might not have been built for armv7?
>
>
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> From: John Dixon <dixonja at hotmail.co.uk>
> To: "use-livecode at lists.runrev.com" <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 August 2013, 9:48
> Subject: linking for armv7 failed...
>
>
> I am in the middle of trying to upload an ipad app to itunes...
>
> To cover what I have showing in the livecode prefrences under 'mobile support'
> I have xcode 4.4.1, 4.52, 4.6, 4.6.2, 4.6.3
> Available SDK's 5.1, 6.0, 6.1
> Available simulators 5.1, 6.0, 6.1
>
> I have my app identifier, development provisioning profile, distribution profile
>
> I can build and run in the simulator... I can build a standalone and run it on an iPad... but I can only build the standalone with the 'build for' setting set to arm6... universal or arm7 doesn't seem to want to know.
>
> I tried using the 'application loader' to load the 'distribution build' set to arm6, but it quiclky tells me that the armv7 component is missing...
>
> When I try to build for armv7 the error message displayed, reads :-
> There was an error while saving the standalone application
> linking for armv7 failed with arm-apple-darwin10-llvm-g++-4.2:
> /private/var/folders/z9/zhgc043x3cxbg5955vch0mbw0000gn/T/TemporaryItems/tmp.554.AdxUp0vO:
> No such file or directory
>
> Anyone know where I am going wrong ?
>
> Dixie
>
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