revOnline and Open Source

[Marian Petrides MD]

Heather,
I'm a late comer to this discussion so I might have missed a crucial piece. 

However, I can conceive of situation in which I might freely share something I've written, e. g. a lecture, but include a copyright notice to forestall someone else using my work verbatim (or nearly so) and passing it off as their own. In fact, I've always included a copyright notice in any handout I've passed out at any lecture I've given. I'd be delighted if people would share my work--as written and with proper attribution. OTOH, I would be seriously annoyed to find large chunks of my work in someone else's textbook. 

It seems to me that this is analogous to the situation you and earlier posters have described. Does this make sense?

Marian

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On Aug 1, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Heather Laine <heather at runrev.com> wrote:

> Call me naive but.. if you don't want to share your code, why on earth would you upload it to revOnline? Its kinda like painting a picture, hanging it on the wall, and then telling folks, hey, thats my picture, don't look at it!
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> I've nothing against people protecting their code if they want to. It's theirs. But if they upload it, openly, to a shared site… what do they expect people to do with it?
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> I'm open to being educated. Maybe there is some reason someone would do this. I just … don't get it. Certainly, that was the original rationale behind providing the revOnline site. To allow users to share their code and their expertise with others, if they chose to do so. This community has always been amazingly sharing  and helpful to each other.
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> This is my personal opinion. I am not a lawyer. It does not represent any official position at RunRev. 
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> Regards,
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> Heather
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> On 1 Aug 2013, at 19:33, Richmond wrote:
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>> 
>> On 08/01/2013 09:25 PM, Mike Kerner wrote:
>>> it's not the site, it was just the title of the thread and the strong
>>> reaction it seems to evoke.  I don't use revOnline, so I can't comment on
>>> it.
>> 
>> Well, I started the thread, and the reaction was both amazing, and, I believe, healthy; surely the more people
>> are involved in this sort of discussion the more chance there is of having some sort of consensus.
>> 
>> If RunRev are presenting themselves as 'open', at least as far as their Open Source half is concerned, then
>> this sort of discussion is necessary; and the thing that is really good is that Kevin Miller has become involved.
>> 
>> Certainly, at the risk of sounding mind-bogglingly naive, I had always assumed that stuff available on revOnline
>> was there for the taking; and when I uploaded stuff to the older version (now obviated) of revOnline
>> I didn't bother about any licensing documents on the understanding that anybody who wanted could just help themselves to my code and get on with it.
>> 
>> I have also been rather careful about the bits of code that are "mission critical" to my commercial product.
>> 
>> Obviously things are not nearly so simple as I fondly imagined.
>> 
>> What precipitated my starting this thread was my spotting, on revOnline, a color picker stack that
>> DOES contain an explicit copyright statement.
>> 
>> Richmond.
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Richmond <richmondmathewson at gmail.com>wrote:
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>>>> On 08/01/2013 07:34 PM, Mike Kerner wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This is just awful and freudian at the same time.  I did a double-take
>>>>> when
>>>>> I read the subject this time, because for a second I thought it was
>>>>> "revOnline and Open Sores"
>>>> LOL! The whole thing does look a bit like an Open Sore.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richmond.
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