Following up on shell(locale) problem

Peter Haworth pete at mollysrevenge.com
Tue Mar 1 21:10:48 EST 2011


That's definitely an option if I don't find a solution to getting the locale info from within LiveCode.  Unfortunately, I know nothing about python. I've been sent some pretty cool LC scripts to do this formatting in response to my post about it.  I'm almost at the point where I will just have the user enter these prefs into my app then use the scripts people have given me to do the fomatting.   

Pete Haworth

On Mar 1, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Mike Bonner wrote:

> Yeah, was just pointing out that since os x has python installed by default
> (right?) could include a small python script and just feed it numbers
> through shell anytime you wanted a currency format. Not sure how fast it
> would be for lots of conversions though. /shrug
> 
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Peter Haworth <pete at mollysrevenge.com>wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Mike.  I'm glad to hear there is a programming language out there
>> that actually uses the locale information.  Unfortunately, there isn;t
>> anything in LiveCode, for numbers and currency that is.
>> 
>> 
>> Pete Haworth
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Mike Bonner wrote:
>> 
>>> Well if you can figure out how to get locale to work from an lc shell,
>> there
>>> are interesting things that can be done in that vein using python.
>>> 
>>> If LANG is set to en_GB, and locale is actually working, you can feed it
>> to
>>> a python script such as this
>>> 
>>> #!/usr/bin/python
>>> import locale -- for locale stuff of course
>>> import sys -- so we can get argv
>>> tVal = float(sys.argv[1]) -- sets argv[1] type to float and puts in tval
>>> locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, ' ' ) -- assuming all is perfect *cough*
>>> grabs the locale
>>> tOut = locale.currency(tVal,1,1,0)
>>> 
>>> -- puts out the number with adjustements. tVal is passed number, next is
>>> whether to show or not show the symbol, next is grouping on or off, next
>> is
>>> use international symbol, or not. So, if LANG is set to en_GB you get
>> back
>>> the great brit symbol, groups of 3, seperated by comma with a "."
>> decimal.
>>> 
>>> As you say though, not sure it'ts worth the effort, can just ask the
>> user.
>>> 
>>> If you're curious, I got this info from
>>> http://docs.python.org/library/locale.html
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Peter Haworth <pete at mollysrevenge.com
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks Mike.  'Fraid the command you gave me still returns the incorrect
>>>> info when executed with the LC shell command.
>>>> 
>>>> In answer to your other email, I'm trying to get this info so I can
>> format
>>>> numbers and currency in my application according to the user's
>> preferences,
>>>> rather than having the user specify the same preferences to my
>> application.
>>>> But it's quickly becoming more trouble than it's worth!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Pete Haworth
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Mike Bonner wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ok, while this doesn't solve the issue, if you do
>>>>> 
>>>>> shell("LANG=en_US.UTF-8;locale -k LC_NUMERIC")
>>>>> 
>>>>> You get back the correct info yes?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The problem here is that (I think someone said this farther up) the
>>>> process
>>>>> shell uses isn't the same as a full blown terminal start. If you have a
>>>>> .bash_profile file in your user directory, and you do
>>>>> 
>>>>> shell("source ~/.bash_profile ; locale -k LC_MONETARY") does it work?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Peter Haworth <pete at mollysrevenge.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK, In terminal, that returns "LANG=en_US.UTF-8".  With the LC shell
>>>>>> command, it returns nothing!!  There's definitely something weird
>> going
>>>> on
>>>>>> with the LC shell command.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pete Haworth
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Mike Bonner wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'd still be curious to know if
>>>>>>> env; |grep LANG
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> returns the same environment variable value both from LC shell, and
>>>> from
>>>>>>> terminal
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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