From saxtell at neb.rr.com Sun Jun 1 16:07:09 2008 From: saxtell at neb.rr.com (Steven Axtell) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 15:07:09 -0500 Subject: Changing Properties of All Fields in a Group Message-ID: <001001c8c423$130e1a90$0301000a@saxtell> Is there a command that allows one to change a property setting for all of the fields in a group? For example, I want to change the textColor property of all of the fields in a group to a given color. Rather than have a line of code for each field, I imagine that there is a command that will allow all of the fields to be changed in one line of code. I've tried to search for possible keywords but haven't identified anything yet. Thanks, Steve Axtell From stephenREVOLUTION2 at barncard.com Sun Jun 1 03:31:18 2008 From: stephenREVOLUTION2 at barncard.com (Stephen Barncard) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 00:31:18 -0700 Subject: [ANN] STS XML Library 2.1 Released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Ken, I bought the Standard Edition version of your XML library a couple of years ago. Do we get updates or is there an upgrade path? thanks sqb >Just FYI, I've released today a new version of the XML Library, version 2.1. >This version includes support for Linux, extended control over whitespace in >XML, and enhanced documentation, in additional to a few minor bug fixes. > >For more information visit the STS XML Library page at ( >http://www.sonsothunder.com/products/xmllib/xmllib.htm). > >Thanks! > >Ken Ray >Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. >Email: kray at sonsothunder.com >Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ > -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - From russell_martin at yahoo.com Mon Jun 2 00:36:25 2008 From: russell_martin at yahoo.com (Russell Martin) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: runrev.com website Message-ID: <399067.67246.qm@web54107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Anyone else notice that the runrev.com website is down today? From david at openpartnership.net Sun Jun 1 06:27:11 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 11:27:11 +0100 Subject: Cute Hypercard busy cursor Message-ID: Any way to get a modern looking beach ball rather than a spinning black an white pie chart - much as I love it :) My only thought is to create a "send message in ticks" loop that set the cursor to a series of graphics - bit puzzled why this has not been updated - or am I missing something? For instance what are the GUI recommendations from Apple - the beachball is generally feared and loathed due to the fact it means usually something has frozen - while the grey spinning "daisy" while not a cursor is less worrying to the user. From Andre.Bisseret at inria.fr Mon Jun 2 06:36:58 2008 From: Andre.Bisseret at inria.fr (Andre.Bisseret) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:36:58 +0200 Subject: launch URL to get an e-mail with BCC, Subject and Body (was revMail and BCC) Message-ID: <4DAFF95A-BA67-40B4-8815-E1A3B01CF195@inria.fr> Hi, (Since yesterday I did not receive any message from the list?? I hope this message will be received) ------ I need to compose e-mail with addresses in BCC. revMail does not allow that. Thanks to an answer from Sarah Reicheit I am now trying to use the mailto protocol in a launch URL command. (launch URL is now recommanded in 2.9.0 instead of revgourl which still works but which is deprecated). In order to fill in the three fields of an e-mail (BCC, Subject and Body), I was struggling with (&s, &"&"&, ? etc.) After hours of trials and errors I succeeded (partly) : I have three variables : tWho : contains the list of addresses to be put in the BCC field; tSubject : contains the subject of the e-mail tBody : contains the text of the e-mail Then the following is working put "launch URL" && quote & "mailto:?BCC=" & tWho & "&" & "Subject=" & tSubject & "&" & "Body=" & tBody & quote into tCommand do tCommand BUT this is working only if tSubject and tBody do not include any special characters (including CR; so that tBpdy can't have more than one line). Now my problem is with URLencode I tried to URLencode tSubject and tBody Unfortunately, that does not works : With one line only in tSubject as well as in tBody (and not special characters), if I URLencode them, I get an e-mail but with the URLencoded text ! For example I get : "Our+next+meeting+in+Paris" :-(( And furthermore, if tSubject include at leat one accented character then no e-mail shows up if tBody includes at least one accented character, or several lines, then the Body of the e-mail is empty So, the only case where I get a complete e-mail is when the texts of tSubject and tBody have only one line each, include not any special character and are not URLencoded. Seems I am missing something about URLencode? Any help would be very much appreciated Best regards from Grenoble Andr? From kevin at runrev.com Mon Jun 2 07:51:01 2008 From: kevin at runrev.com (Kevin Miller) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:51:01 +0100 Subject: Data center explosion Message-ID: Hi all, As you may have noticed, we had a fairly major outage of all online services this weekend. The data center in which our multiple servers are hosted suffered an explosion in the power room. The big loss was our DNS which has now been restored. It will be a while before that propagates so access may be sporadic. There isn't much we can do to speed it up. For those of you interested, here is the Slashdot article: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/01/1715247 Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ kevin at runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Mon Jun 2 07:57:49 2008 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:57:49 +0200 Subject: Is the revFont external unreliable? Message-ID: <571F400F-20FF-4D45-8BBC-12F8C54C7F3F@economy-x-talk.com> Hello, For a client, I created a standalone, which inlcudes the revFont external. Users of the software sometimes report that the features related to the revFont external don't work. The log files created by my scripts indicate that the external sometimes loads and sometimes doesn't load. Note that all users have an exact copy of the same standalone. This problem only occurs with Mac OS X. Does anyone else have problems with the revFont external? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. From heather at runrev.com Mon Jun 2 08:12:07 2008 From: heather at runrev.com (Heather Nagey) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:12:07 +0100 Subject: 6/2/2008 - Server Downtime Resolved Message-ID: <05A02C76-9568-47A3-B135-08BDE9E7F687@runrev.com> Dear List Members, Some of you may have noticed a lack of posts over the weekend, and the disappearance of our website. A catastrophic failure at our Texas-based ISP forced the closure of the runrev.com website and other services this weekend. The problem was resolved early Monday morning and all services are now operating normally. During the outage, all email to support and various email lists was suspended. If you submitted a post to one of the discussion lists, please allow 6 to 12 hours for the information to appear, as most mail servers will re-attempt delivery. If you emailed support or someone else at runrev.com, you may wish to re-submit your email. The outage began Saturday May 31 at 10:55pm GMT, when electrical equipment at our web host's datacenter shorted out, creating a fire and explosion that knocked out three walls in their electrical equipment room. Fire department officials required all power to the facility to be cut until safety was assured. No one was injured in the incident, and no data was damaged or lost. As of Monday morning, some locations may be unable to reach the runrev.com domain as updated DNS information propogates throughout the Internet, a situation which will resolve itself in a few hours. Runtime Revolution utilizes one of the largest and well-regarded hosts in the United States, and thousands of other websites were affected by this outage. We will be working with our web host to establish better redundancy and disaster-management plans in the future. The good news is, we're back up and running, and normal service can now resume. Warm Regards, Heather Nagey Customer Services Manager Runtime Revolution Ltd http://www.runrev.com From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Sun Jun 1 11:47:07 2008 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 17:47:07 +0200 Subject: Is the revFont external unreliable? Message-ID: Hello, For a client, I created a standalone, which inlcudes the revFont external. Users of the software sometimes report that the features related to the revFont external don't work. The log files created by my scripts indicate that the external sometimes loads and sometimes doesn't load. Note that all users have an exact copy of the same standalone. This problem only occurs with Mac OS X. Does anyone else have problems with the revFont external? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. From klaus at major-k.de Mon Jun 2 09:19:18 2008 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus Major) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:19:18 +0200 Subject: mail test Message-ID: <30B4AB94-83EB-4CE3-81E5-0775BE3737DE@major-k.de> Hi all, just a little test... Regards Klaus Major klaus at major-k.de http://www.major-k.de From shoreagent at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 09:41:19 2008 From: shoreagent at gmail.com (william humphrey) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:41:19 -0400 Subject: New Software purchase set-up with Kagi Message-ID: <459b22a90806020641y1c4e408asa04fbfedb1bcfcea@mail.gmail.com> I just used a very elegant interface for a software purchase. It is implemented in a program called "Yep" (which helps catalog your PDF files and works with your scanner). Anyway when you hit the purchase button it accesses Kagi in a window that comes down as a shade with the fields to fill out for your Kagi purchase. Then you hit send and instantly it enters the serial number in your program -- no waiting for an email and no cutting and pasting of serial numbers. It was the easiest software purchase I've ever done. The only drawback I can see is that there is no explanation of how secure this process is. Anyway it is well worth looking into for all you developers out there to include with your demo software. From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Mon Jun 2 10:40:27 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:40:27 +0100 Subject: test Message-ID: Please ignore, I'm having some odd problems with mailing lists... Ian From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Mon Jun 2 11:12:01 2008 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:12:01 +0200 Subject: Palette that reacts when changeing the top stack.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <81902D3E-184F-4071-BAC9-020B84C6BB17@economy-x-talk.com> Hi david, I'd trap the resumeStack message, sometimes the (pre)openStack message, in a front script. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 1 jun 2008, at 01:45, David Bovill wrote: > Its been a while since I've done this... what's the best way to trap > for > this? Do I need a front script (in case the stack blocks a message) > - or can > I intercept and pass a Rev IDE specific message? From viktoras at ekoinf.net Mon Jun 2 11:12:05 2008 From: viktoras at ekoinf.net (viktoras didziulis) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:12:05 +0300 Subject: Is the revFont external unreliable? In-Reply-To: References: <2D39EFC0-2A5D-481F-AEDC-D77FC19E591D@azurevision.co.uk> <31B282C2-CDA9-4BE7-A50B-2F9C334E89E2@mangomultimedia.com> Message-ID: <48440DC5.6070705@ekoinf.net> just noticed when using the uniencode/unidecode method (as was described in revdataFromQuery and umlauts etc. thread some time ago) to diplay data loaded from sqlite database in compiled application (Windows, Rev 2.9) some unicode Eastern European fonts turn into black sticks. In development environment everything works and fonts are rendered correctly. Fonts are included during compilation and revfont.dll is present in externals folder. What else is there to check for ? Or is this a failure of revFont external and it is time to visit the QC? Best wishes Viktoras Ian Wood wrote: > > On 20 May 2008, at 14:42, Trevor DeVore wrote: > >> You are probably dealing with encoding issues. Maybe the data is >> stored as UTF8? In that case you would have to do the following: >> >> put uniencode(tVID, "UTF8") into tVID -- change to UTF16 which Rev >> undestands. >> put unidecode(tVID) into tVID -- Now it is in a format specific to >> platform. >> >> I store all unformatted text in SQLite as UTF8 and run it through >> similar functions. > > Bingo! Presumably SQLite Browser and the SQLite command tool are both > doing this step automatically. > > Thanks Trevor! > > Ian From lists at mangomultimedia.com Mon Jun 2 11:26:03 2008 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:26:03 -0400 Subject: Is the revFont external unreliable? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29820B89-0E79-427D-BEC1-97151C93865B@mangomultimedia.com> On Jun 1, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > For a client, I created a standalone, which inlcudes the revFont > external. Users of the software sometimes report that the features > related to the revFont external don't work. The log files created by > my scripts indicate that the external sometimes loads and sometimes > doesn't load. Note that all users have an exact copy of the same > standalone. This problem only occurs with Mac OS X. When the external fails to load have you had clients look at the console messages using the Console app? Messages in this log will sometimes tell you why a library failed to load. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Mon Jun 2 11:27:09 2008 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:27:09 +0200 Subject: Is the revFont external unreliable? In-Reply-To: <48440DC5.6070705@ekoinf.net> References: <2D39EFC0-2A5D-481F-AEDC-D77FC19E591D@azurevision.co.uk> <31B282C2-CDA9-4BE7-A50B-2F9C334E89E2@mangomultimedia.com> <48440DC5.6070705@ekoinf.net> Message-ID: <296A69B5-9CEA-46AE-A1A7-4CFD1299D9AC@economy-x-talk.com> Hi, At this point, I can't read the entire discussion yet, as e-mails are still travelling through cyber space, after the fire. The problem I'm having is just that the external doesn't always load. Sometimes it loads and sometimes it doesn't, while all users are using exactly the same universal standalone. Does anyone else see this? (Unicode problems can be worked around ;-) ) -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 2 jun 2008, at 17:12, viktoras didziulis wrote: > just noticed when using the uniencode/unidecode method (as was > described in revdataFromQuery and umlauts etc. thread some time ago) > to diplay data loaded from sqlite database in compiled application > (Windows, Rev 2.9) some unicode Eastern European fonts turn into > black sticks. In development environment everything works and fonts > are rendered correctly. Fonts are included during compilation and > revfont.dll is present in externals folder. What else is there to > check for ? Or is this a failure of revFont external and it is time > to visit the QC? > > Best wishes > Viktoras From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Mon Jun 2 11:33:49 2008 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:33:49 +0200 Subject: Is the revFont external unreliable? In-Reply-To: <29820B89-0E79-427D-BEC1-97151C93865B@mangomultimedia.com> References: <29820B89-0E79-427D-BEC1-97151C93865B@mangomultimedia.com> Message-ID: Hmmm... thanks, I should have thought of that myself. I'll ask for the console logs, if I can find them. Most of the time, Rev doesn't create any logs by itself, on my machine, particularly not after a crash. I hope this is different for the standalone. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 2 jun 2008, at 17:26, Trevor DeVore wrote: > On Jun 1, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > > When the external fails to load have you had clients look at the > console messages using the Console app? Messages in this log will > sometimes tell you why a library failed to load. > > -- > Trevor DeVore From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Mon Jun 2 11:50:06 2008 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:50:06 +0200 Subject: Cute Hypercard busy cursor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7950D5FE-AA15-4804-B212-E7E53344E591@economy-x-talk.com> Hi David, Apple wants you to use some kind of progress indicator, rather than a busy cursor or beach ball. There are also indeterminate progress indicators. You can use the send command to use your own cursor, but I think you need to lock the cursor. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 1 jun 2008, at 12:27, David Bovill wrote: > Any way to get a modern looking beach ball rather than a spinning > black an > white pie chart - much as I love it :) > > My only thought is to create a "send message in ticks" loop that set > the > cursor to a series of graphics - bit puzzled why this has not been > updated - > or am I missing something? For instance what are the GUI > recommendations > from Apple - the beachball is generally feared and loathed due to > the fact > it means usually something has frozen - while the grey spinning > "daisy" > while not a cursor is less worrying to the user. From lists at mangomultimedia.com Mon Jun 2 12:02:45 2008 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:02:45 -0400 Subject: Is the revFont external unreliable? In-Reply-To: References: <29820B89-0E79-427D-BEC1-97151C93865B@mangomultimedia.com> Message-ID: <9C8C84CD-EFF2-44FE-806A-5E29F6E1A136@mangomultimedia.com> On Jun 2, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > Hmmm... thanks, I should have thought of that myself. I'll ask for > the console logs, if I can find them. Most of the time, Rev doesn't > create any logs by itself, on my machine, particularly not after a > crash. I hope this is different for the standalone. This depends on the type of crash. If Rev just quits and no OS X crash dialog is displayed then you won't see a crash log. If the OS does display a crash dialog then you should be able to find a crash log. When an external fails I have seen error messages in the Console before so hopefully you can find some useful information there. Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com From kray at sonsothunder.com Mon Jun 2 12:04:57 2008 From: kray at sonsothunder.com (Ken Ray) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:04:57 -0500 Subject: [ANN] STS XML Library 2.1 Released In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I bought the Standard Edition version of your XML library a couple > of years ago. Do we get updates or is there an upgrade path? Purchasers of the XML Library Standard Edition get free updates of version 2.x, which were sent out the day I made the announcement. In your case, Stephen, I had an old email address which bounced back so I'm resending your copy (if you don't get it let me know). Anyone else that purchased the XML Library Standard Edition who did *not* already get their updates, please contact me off-list. Thanks, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: kray at sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ From nealk3nc at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 12:12:23 2008 From: nealk3nc at gmail.com (Neal Campbell) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:12:23 -0400 Subject: [ANN] STS XML Library 2.1 Released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <325413300806020912t6c697a04u704674b1e45e9f64@mail.gmail.com> I think I bought the pro version and I didn't get anything but the announcement. Thanks Neal On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Ken Ray wrote: >> I bought the Standard Edition version of your XML library a couple >> of years ago. Do we get updates or is there an upgrade path? > > Purchasers of the XML Library Standard Edition get free updates of version > 2.x, which were sent out the day I made the announcement. In your case, > Stephen, I had an old email address which bounced back so I'm resending your > copy (if you don't get it let me know). > > Anyone else that purchased the XML Library Standard Edition who did *not* > already get their updates, please contact me off-list. > > Thanks, > > Ken Ray > Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. > Email: kray at sonsothunder.com > Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - introduction priced at $10.99 For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com From nealk3nc at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 12:13:16 2008 From: nealk3nc at gmail.com (Neal Campbell) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:13:16 -0400 Subject: [ANN] STS XML Library 2.1 Released In-Reply-To: <325413300806020912t6c697a04u704674b1e45e9f64@mail.gmail.com> References: <325413300806020912t6c697a04u704674b1e45e9f64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <325413300806020913l3348fdb8uc1bc4959eef64137@mail.gmail.com> Pardon, there is no pro version!! I bought the standard version. Neal On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Neal Campbell wrote: > I think I bought the pro version and I didn't get anything but the announcement. > > Thanks > Neal > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Ken Ray wrote: >>> I bought the Standard Edition version of your XML library a couple >>> of years ago. Do we get updates or is there an upgrade path? >> >> Purchasers of the XML Library Standard Edition get free updates of version >> 2.x, which were sent out the day I made the announcement. In your case, >> Stephen, I had an old email address which bounced back so I'm resending your >> copy (if you don't get it let me know). >> >> Anyone else that purchased the XML Library Standard Edition who did *not* >> already get their updates, please contact me off-list. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ken Ray >> Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. >> Email: kray at sonsothunder.com >> Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > > > -- > Neal Campbell > Abroham Neal Software > Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux > (540) 242 0911 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at > www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - introduction priced at $10.99 > > For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com > -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - introduction priced at $10.99 For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com From JimAultWins at yahoo.com Mon Jun 2 12:13:39 2008 From: JimAultWins at yahoo.com (Jim Ault) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:13:39 -0700 Subject: Is RR too easy? Or too hard? (was) Is RunRev marketed to In-Reply-To: <17572777.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: On 5/31/08 12:31 AM, "Peter Alcibiades" wrote: > You have lets say a tab separated file with data in it. This seems to be > the approved way of storing a few thousand or tens of thousands of records > of data, and indeed it does work fine for storage. Now you want to produce > reports out of it. The recommended way (which I've done) seems to be one > field per item of information, lay out the card so that it looks halfway > decent, and then print card. > > However any report is quite capable of having 50 -100 cells, more, in it. > Now, it may be that there is an easier way, which if so it would be great to > hear about, but addressing all those cells individually in a script so you > go through the file and extract and calculate what is wanted is immensely > tedious, inflexible, lengthy and error prone. Also, your reports may well be > multiple pages, in which case layout again becomes problematic. The card > metaphor does fine when you are dealing with screen fulls of info, but when > you're dealing with page fulls, less so. Maybe there is a good way to lay > out a field with totals and subtotals and percentages in it, and that does > not involve addressing all the cells individually? Even then however, in > Linux, I would have to re-export it to a text file at the moment in order to > format it properly for printing it. (Yes, a bug has been filed on this.) I don't do this kind of reporting, but used to in FileMaker many years ago. Of course, Filemaker was layout-driven so the tools were there. In Rev, I would use custom properties to store incoming data, formatting definitions, and calculated results. Loops could be made to scan the data, sort, tabulate, cross tabulate, and summarize. The final step would be to print one or more pages using a single card. This means populate fields for page one, print, then page two, etc. This also allows the use of headers and footers that track the page numbers. I would think that you could have different card layouts to optimize the choice of fonts, margins, orientation, page size. Some advantages to using custom properties are speed, unlimited 'cells' for storage, naming of properties, duplicating data instantly, saving the stack would also save the custom properties (and calculated values if created), and sub stacks could be used to help build summaries and tabulations. Others on the list have much more experience at this than I. Hope this helps. Jim Ault Las Vegas From kray at sonsothunder.com Mon Jun 2 12:18:34 2008 From: kray at sonsothunder.com (Ken Ray) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:18:34 -0500 Subject: Changing Properties of All Fields in a Group In-Reply-To: <001001c8c423$130e1a90$0301000a@saxtell> Message-ID: > Is there a command that allows one to change a property setting for all of the > fields in a group? For example, I want to change the textColor property of > all of the fields in a group to a given color. Rather than have a line of > code for each field, I imagine that there is a command that will allow all of > the fields to be changed in one line of code. I've tried to search for > possible keywords but haven't identified anything yet. The answer is "yes", and "sort of". Rev uses an inheritance model for properties, so if you set a property of an object to empty, it will inherit the property setting from its container. So in order to do this, you'd need to have all the fields in the group have *no* textColor, and then set the textColor of the group. However keep in mind that this will affect the group itself as well, so if you're showing the name of the group as well, it will also change to the same textColor. You can test this in a sample stack by dragging out two fields, set their contents (but *not* their text color), grouping them, and then setting the foreground color of the group to red - you'll see the text in the fields turn red. If you've already assigned text colors to a field, you can empty it out and inherit from its container by clicking the "clear" button in the Inspector palette next to "Text". One final thing - if you need to find out in script what text color is in use in the field, you can't just do: put the textColor of into tMyVar because this will set tMyVar to empty (""). In order to find out what it inherited, you need to use the "effective" keyword: put the effective textColor of into tMyVar Of course, if you can't use inheritance in your specific instance, there is no single way to set the textColor for multiple fields; you'd need to use a repeat loop. HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: kray at sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ From kray at sonsothunder.com Mon Jun 2 12:58:49 2008 From: kray at sonsothunder.com (Ken Ray) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:58:49 -0500 Subject: [ANN] STS XML Library 2.1 Released In-Reply-To: <325413300806020913l3348fdb8uc1bc4959eef64137@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Pardon, there is no pro version!! I bought the standard version. Thanks, Neal... on it's way... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: kray at sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ From paulgabel at comcast.net Sun Jun 1 18:09:08 2008 From: paulgabel at comcast.net (Paul Gabel) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 15:09:08 -0700 Subject: Test (delete) Message-ID: Test (delete) From effendi at wanadoo.fr Mon Jun 2 15:04:46 2008 From: effendi at wanadoo.fr (Francis Nugent Dixon) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:04:46 +0200 Subject: Test Message-ID: <6240801A-7FF1-4042-888C-9CD7C81EB88F@wanadoo.fr> This is just a test to see if I connect -Francis From josh at dvcreators.net Mon Jun 2 15:21:36 2008 From: josh at dvcreators.net (Josh Mellicker) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:21:36 -0700 Subject: Changing Properties of All Fields in a Group In-Reply-To: <001001c8c423$130e1a90$0301000a@saxtell> References: <001001c8c423$130e1a90$0301000a@saxtell> Message-ID: Could you say: repeat with x = 1 to the number of fields in grp "myGrp" set the textColor of fld x of grp "myGrp" to 123,34,214 end repeat (not tested) On Jun 1, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Steven Axtell wrote: > Is there a command that allows one to change a property setting for > all of the fields in a group? For example, I want to change the > textColor property of all of the fields in a group to a given > color. Rather than have a line of code for each field, I imagine > that there is a command that will allow all of the fields to be > changed in one line of code. I've tried to search for possible > keywords but haven't identified anything yet. > > Thanks, > > Steve Axtell > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From josh at dvcreators.net Mon Jun 2 15:24:30 2008 From: josh at dvcreators.net (Josh Mellicker) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:24:30 -0700 Subject: launch URL to get an e-mail with BCC, Subject and Body (was revMail and BCC) In-Reply-To: <4DAFF95A-BA67-40B4-8815-E1A3B01CF195@inria.fr> References: <4DAFF95A-BA67-40B4-8815-E1A3B01CF195@inria.fr> Message-ID: <863C2563-580E-42D5-9B93-9BF718A7FF44@dvcreators.net> Have you checked out "altEmailHarness.rev"? I tried it once and it worked perfectly. http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm On Jun 2, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Andre.Bisseret wrote: > Hi, > (Since yesterday I did not receive any message from the list?? I > hope this message will be received) > ------ > > I need to compose e-mail with addresses in BCC. revMail does not > allow that. > Thanks to an answer from Sarah Reicheit I am now trying to use the > mailto protocol in a launch URL command. > (launch URL is now recommanded in 2.9.0 instead of revgourl which > still works but which is deprecated). > > In order to fill in the three fields of an e-mail (BCC, Subject and > Body), I was struggling with (&s, &"&"&, ? etc.) > After hours of trials and errors I succeeded (partly) : > > I have three variables : > tWho : contains the list of addresses to be put in the BCC field; > tSubject : contains the subject of the e-mail > tBody : contains the text of the e-mail > > Then the following is working > put "launch URL" && quote & "mailto:?BCC=" & tWho & "&" & "Subject=" > & tSubject & "&" & "Body=" & tBody & quote into tCommand > do tCommand > > BUT this is working only if tSubject and tBody do not include any > special characters (including CR; so that tBpdy can't have more than > one line). > > Now my problem is with URLencode > > I tried to URLencode tSubject and tBody > Unfortunately, that does not works : > With one line only in tSubject as well as in tBody (and not special > characters), if I URLencode them, I get an e-mail but with the > URLencoded text ! > > For example I get : "Our+next+meeting+in+Paris" :-(( > > And furthermore, if tSubject include at leat one accented character > then no e-mail shows up > if tBody includes at least one accented character, or several lines, > then the Body of the e-mail is empty > > So, the only case where I get a complete e-mail is when the texts of > tSubject and tBody have only one line each, include not any special > character and are not URLencoded. > Seems I am missing something about URLencode? > > Any help would be very much appreciated > > Best regards from Grenoble > Andr? > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From dan at clearvisiontech.com Mon Jun 2 15:25:35 2008 From: dan at clearvisiontech.com (Dan Friedman) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:25:35 -0700 Subject: Strange URL Behavior In-Reply-To: <20080602170006.D583148903C@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: Anyone got any ideas on this... Within one of my rather long routines, I am doing a simple "get" of a text file off my website. When I run this routine, rev (2.9.0) seems to hang on this line of code. It's not locked up... And I can command-period to get out of it. It also acts this way in a standalone. OK... Here's the strange part, if I put a breakpoint on this line, and click "Run" when it breaks, it works fine. If I put an "answer" before the get, it works fine. Anyone have any thoughts? I only have a few hairs left to pull out! Thank you in advance, Dan From livfoss at mac.com Sun Jun 1 11:52:24 2008 From: livfoss at mac.com (Graham Samuel) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:52:24 +0200 Subject: Closing a stack from the Application Browser In-Reply-To: <20080530170009.0B480489C05@mail.runrev.com> References: <20080530170009.0B480489C05@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: <6089D0B2-2586-49C9-84A7-D684929D3793@mac.com> Using RunRev 2.9.0 on a Mac with Leopard, I have two stacks open. Both are mainstacks. When I highlight the name of one of the stacks in the Application Browser and choose 'Close and Remove from Memory" from the 'File' menu, Rev proposed to close the non-hilighted stack if its window is on top of the one whose name is selected - in other words, the hilight in the App Browser isn't doing anything. Is this a bug? If so, I suppose I should report it.. Has anyone got an idea about how it should work? Graham > -------------------------------------------------------------- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK & France From kee at kagi.com Mon Jun 2 16:24:00 2008 From: kee at kagi.com (Kee Nethery) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:24:00 -0700 Subject: Cute Hypercard busy cursor In-Reply-To: <7950D5FE-AA15-4804-B212-E7E53344E591@economy-x-talk.com> References: <7950D5FE-AA15-4804-B212-E7E53344E591@economy-x-talk.com> Message-ID: <8A56219A-1580-4E0B-B378-0EAD12F92B91@kagi.com> David, I too have pondered why set cursor to busy uses the really old black and white rotating busy cursor from Hypercard of the 1900's rather than whatever is the standard on the platform today. If you find that there is a command (for example): set cursor to century2000busycursor or something like that, that displays this century's busy cursor, please let me know. Thanks, Kee Nethery On Jun 2, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > Hi David, > > Apple wants you to use some kind of progress indicator, rather than > a busy cursor or beach ball. There are also indeterminate progress > indicators. > > You can use the send command to use your own cursor, but I think you > need to lock the cursor. > > -- > Best regards, > > Mark Schonewille > > Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering > http://economy-x-talk.com > http://www.salery.biz > > Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html > for more info. > > On 1 jun 2008, at 12:27, David Bovill wrote: > >> Any way to get a modern looking beach ball rather than a spinning >> black an >> white pie chart - much as I love it :) >> >> My only thought is to create a "send message in ticks" loop that >> set the >> cursor to a series of graphics - bit puzzled why this has not been >> updated - >> or am I missing something? For instance what are the GUI >> recommendations >> from Apple - the beachball is generally feared and loathed due to >> the fact >> it means usually something has frozen - while the grey spinning >> "daisy" >> while not a cursor is less worrying to the user. > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------------------------------------------------- I check email roughly 2 to 3 times per business day. Kagi main office: +1 (510) 550-1336 From dave.cragg at lacscentre.co.uk Mon Jun 2 16:24:42 2008 From: dave.cragg at lacscentre.co.uk (Dave Cragg) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:24:42 +0100 Subject: Strange URL Behavior In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <75E4EAE2-D95C-4FE8-955F-C5005ED4579C@lacscentre.co.uk> On 2 Jun 2008, at 20:25, Dan Friedman wrote: > Anyone got any ideas on this... > > Within one of my rather long routines, I am doing a simple "get" of > a text > file off my website. When I run this routine, rev (2.9.0) seems to > hang on > this line of code. It's not locked up... And I can command-period > to get > out of it. It also acts this way in a standalone. > > OK... Here's the strange part, if I put a breakpoint on this line, > and click > "Run" when it breaks, it works fine. If I put an "answer" before > the get, > it works fine. Is there anything in the handler before the "get" line that might be causing problems? One thing I can think of is using libUrlResetAll. It can cause problems when used in the same handler before a get/load/etc url call. Cheers Dave From janschenkel at yahoo.com Mon Jun 2 16:31:31 2008 From: janschenkel at yahoo.com (Jan Schenkel) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [ANN] Quartam Reports 1.1.1 Released and other Quartam News Message-ID: <804268.28074.qm@web65415.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Aalst, June 2nd 2008 - Quartam Software announces the release of Quartam Reports for Revolution - version 1.1.1 Since we returned from the runrevlive.08 conference, we've been hard at work. This update to Quartam Reports addresses all reported issues and brings a number of enhancements to the brand-new charts on the basis of your initial feedback. Quartam Reports for Revolution - version 1.1 introduced stretching data fields and relative positioning, added title and summary sections, brought data groups to everyone and extended the Professional edition with barcodes, 2D charts and export to HTML and Excel. With Quartam Reports, Revolution and just a little SQL, you can create professional reports - cross-platform and database-independent. For more information and demo downloads, visit our website at In other news, the quartam.com website was updated with a more modern look and improved navigation. You can now also follow our latest developing thoughts at Registered users of Quartam Reports and Quartam PDF Library are invited to join the Quartam Community Site, powered by Ning, at - there you can exchange ideas and interact with your fellow users of the Quartam developer tools. Of course, if you have any questions or remarks, do not hesitate to contact me directly at Best regards, Jan Schenkel. Quartam Reports & PDF Library for Revolution ===== "As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time." (La Rochefoucauld) From dave.cragg at lacscentre.co.uk Mon Jun 2 16:56:40 2008 From: dave.cragg at lacscentre.co.uk (Dave Cragg) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:56:40 +0100 Subject: Strange URL Behavior In-Reply-To: <75E4EAE2-D95C-4FE8-955F-C5005ED4579C@lacscentre.co.uk> References: <75E4EAE2-D95C-4FE8-955F-C5005ED4579C@lacscentre.co.uk> Message-ID: <0BCF3055-4002-47CC-9B06-D8E43B25D9AB@lacscentre.co.uk> On 2 Jun 2008, at 21:24, Dave Cragg wrote: > > On 2 Jun 2008, at 20:25, Dan Friedman wrote: > >> Anyone got any ideas on this... >> >> Within one of my rather long routines, I am doing a simple "get" of >> a text >> file off my website. When I run this routine, rev (2.9.0) seems to >> hang on >> this line of code. It's not locked up... And I can command-period >> to get >> out of it. It also acts this way in a standalone. >> >> OK... Here's the strange part, if I put a breakpoint on this line, >> and click >> "Run" when it breaks, it works fine. If I put an "answer" before >> the get, >> it works fine. > > Is there anything in the handler before the "get" line that might be > causing problems? One thing I can think of is using libUrlResetAll. > It can cause problems when used in the same handler before a get/ > load/etc url call. Dan, some more speculation... Another possibility is using a "send ... in